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totally want one of these
if you could hook up a 4 button fc to it for fx would be tits
maybe a quick press for fx 1and a long press fx 2
could that be modded out? like another port?
I should ask fxdr...

anyone scoop one of these up?

my gf bought one and i would like it as well, but i'm having trouble nailing loops on the one.

i'm looking for a solid looper so i have an excuse to unload my timeline. i like everything about the 720 but my inability to get a solid, on time loop with it is kind of a deal breaker.

I think with the ehx loopers you have to get it a half step before time, instead of at the same time.

Jero wrote:I think with the ehx loopers you have to get it a half step before time, instead of at the same time.

Yeah the thing to keep in mind is that it's just not on the one, like most loopers. I wrote this in another thread:

The 720 is superior to the Ditto X2 in a lot of ways, but the footswitch is a huge difference that it took me awhile to figure out. On the X2 you can loop on the 1 (in a typical 4 count or 8 count or whatever), but with the 720, you actually hit the footswitch on the 4 or 8 or whatever the last count would be of the sequence you are looping (or on 0 if that makes more sense to your brain). It's a little weird to get used to when I've been using the Ditto and X2 for years, you definitely have to think a little more (or I do ).

insubordination wrote:

Jero wrote:I think with the ehx loopers you have to get it a half step before time, instead of at the same time.

Yeah the thing to keep in mind is that it's just not on the one, like most loopers. I wrote this in another thread:

The 720 is superior to the Ditto X2 in a lot of ways, but the footswitch is a huge difference that it took me awhile to figure out. On the X2 you can loop on the 1 (in a typical 4 count or 8 count or whatever), but with the 720, you actually hit the footswitch on the 4 or 8 or whatever the last count would be of the sequence you are looping (or on 0 if that makes more sense to your brain). It's a little weird to get used to when I've been using the Ditto and X2 for years, you definitely have to think a little more (or I do ).

this is a bummer I thought using soft-switches would prevent this
it's in their algorithm
damn. when is akai releasing an E3?
guess I'll get a flashback x4 and upgrade the switch through FX Dr.
that guy is rad.

So if you start the 8 count on 0, what the heck do you end it on? 8 or 9?

I own one of these and never have actually turned it on yet, so I guess I'll find out soon.

ugh. thats just what i was fearing. how lame is that?

It ranks right up there on the lameness scale. I'm giving it an 8 or 9. haha.

insubordination wrote:

Jero wrote:I think with the ehx loopers you have to get it a half step before time, instead of at the same time.

Yeah the thing to keep in mind is that it's just not on the one, like most loopers. I wrote this in another thread:

The 720 is superior to the Ditto X2 in a lot of ways, but the footswitch is a huge difference that it took me awhile to figure out. On the X2 you can loop on the 1 (in a typical 4 count or 8 count or whatever), but with the 720, you actually hit the footswitch on the 4 or 8 or whatever the last count would be of the sequence you are looping (or on 0 if that makes more sense to your brain). It's a little weird to get used to when I've been using the Ditto and X2 for years, you definitely have to think a little more (or I do ).

Argh. that's why I didn't really cuddle much with my Boss Rc-50, which had basically all the fancy features I wanted BUT trying to use it with a band as a real time looper was plain frustrating.

That was a big reason I sold my vox looper/multi effect thing a few years ago. The switches were awkward, and it had that timing thing.

decomposing wrote:guess I'll get a flashback x4 and upgrade the switch through FX Dr.
that guy is rad.

Not to take away from FXdr, but anyone here could do that for you for like half the cost. Was going to mention it when you brought him up about changing the switch on your hazarai. $30 to solder 2 lugs on a $2-$5 switch is stupid

Bassus Sanguinis wrote:

insubordination wrote:

Jero wrote:I think with the ehx loopers you have to get it a half step before time, instead of at the same time.

Yeah the thing to keep in mind is that it's just not on the one, like most loopers. I wrote this in another thread:

The 720 is superior to the Ditto X2 in a lot of ways, but the footswitch is a huge difference that it took me awhile to figure out. On the X2 you can loop on the 1 (in a typical 4 count or 8 count or whatever), but with the 720, you actually hit the footswitch on the 4 or 8 or whatever the last count would be of the sequence you are looping (or on 0 if that makes more sense to your brain). It's a little weird to get used to when I've been using the Ditto and X2 for years, you definitely have to think a little more (or I do ).

Argh. that's why I didn't really cuddle much with my Boss Rc-50, which had basically all the fancy features I wanted BUT trying to use it with a band as a real time looper was plain frustrating.

aw that's a bummer to hear.. I get along fine with my RC-3.

Jero wrote:That was a big reason I sold my vox looper/multi effect thing a few years ago. The switches were awkward, and it had that timing thing.

decomposing wrote:guess I'll get a flashback x4 and upgrade the switch through FX Dr.
that guy is rad.

Not to take away from FXdr, but anyone here could do that for you for like half the cost. Was going to mention it when you brought him up about changing the switch on your hazarai. $30 to solder 2 lugs on a $2-$5 switch is stupid

yeah I like to support him though because he's done some really awesome time-intensive mods for me
but thanks guys
so I assume all EHX loopers operate this way
I guess Reggie Watts just has figured it out
he's a fucking genius
but I need a simple easy loopster
like the akai, just makes sense
but way limited

I was playing around with this last night putting a metronome through it and using my hands. I could definitely loop a 4 count starting on 1 on the first measure and stopping on 1 on the next measure like all the other loopers I've tried. Could be the footswitches that are causing people problems? I've not spent any quality time with it yet though

Well, you're probably getting the 1 from the next measure looped around in front of the 2 from your first measure. Fine for metronome, but not so good if you're playing an ascending scale and just grabbing the last measure. The looper will probably work fine for me, as long as I make sure to play through the loop at least once before hitting the start, and make sure i play at least a half measure past stopping it. Then you'd assume as long as you tap consistently, it will grab the right content, even if it's from the wrong place.

I just haven't had a chance to try it out. I'll report back how mine is working.

rembrandtvanrijn wrote:I was playing around with this last night putting a metronome through it and using my hands. I could definitely loop a 4 count starting on 1 on the first measure and stopping on 1 on the next measure like all the other loopers I've tried. Could be the footswitches that are causing people problems? I've not spent any quality time with it yet though

I should clarify--you're correct, you can get a loop starting on the 1, but when you do that it chops off the attack of whatever is being looped on the one, like it starts a split second into the 1 count. So I'm not surprised it worked with a metronome, the click of the metronome was probably short enough to be captured in that split second after the footswitch is engaged.

I think the reason for this is that the loop on the 720 isn't started until the footswitch is all the way down and then the pedal is like "oh shit, gotta start looping!" vs. the Ditto/TC switches, which start looping before the footswitch is fully depressed. You can hear a "click" when first pushing the switch down, which I believe is the switch engaging and the loop starting, hence why it's so effortless to loop in time with the Ditto.