Bedroom/recording amps?

[ancientbones]

It's like 40w right? Yeah that might be a little too loud. I'm thinking maybe I should just sell off my amp and cab and grab an old fender champ or champ variant for recording and then find a cheap old Peavey Classic 30 or something if I start playing live. I have a really old trashy 20w ss peavey practice amp and even that gets pretty loud pretty fast.

6w should be enough for recording some shoegaze stuff at home, right? I'm lovin the clean tone of these little amps.

That sounds like a pretty good plan to me. In the bedroom, my Micro Terror is loud. My AC4C1-12 will make my ears ring. I really think anything more than 4/5/6W, at home, is gonna be more of a hindrance than a help, if you're after tube tones. That is, unless you have some good isolation. And, one thing about the Champ, I've found that I don't like any single speaker setup smaller than 12", for guitar. Smaller might record fine. But, I want it to sound right in the room for me, too.

Yeah I'm not super fond of 8" speakers, but I like 10" ones. I'm mostly weary about a low wattage amp not being able to handle pedals as well. I like my fuzz and reverb.

[waltdogg]

Gimmie 8-15 watts adn a 10" speaker.

Try an old Crate V8 or V15 Palomino a try. Those amps are reaaaaaaally good sounding for what they are.

[sylnau]

I'm using a Bogner Duende.

[ancientbones]

Gimmie 8-15 watts adn a 10" speaker.

Try an old Crate V8 or V15 Palomino a try. Those amps are reaaaaaaally good sounding for what they are.

I've seen a couple for sale but never tried one out myself.

[waltdogg]

Gimmie 8-15 watts adn a 10" speaker.

Try an old Crate V8 or V15 Palomino a try. Those amps are reaaaaaaally good sounding for what they are.

I've seen a couple for sale but never tried one out myself.

If you can get one for a good deal I'd say go for it. Very versatile and fairly responsive to tube changes.

[popvulture]

I have a Carr Mercury for this kind of thing. I will concede that they're stupid expensive, but it was one of those amps that, after playing it and realizing how perfectly it works for the way I play, I just had to figure out a way to save up and buy one.

The clean tone is beautiful and it does higher gain settings if I want, but my favorite area is light to mid breakup. The reverb is pretty unique and can get gorgeously washy. For home recording/bedroom level type stuff, the attenuator is incredibly handy, plus it can sound shockingly huge at full power. One of the best purchases I've ever made.

[rfurtkamp]

I haven't been in a shop or looked at a catalog in so long I have no suggestions lol. Nothing lower wattage that doesn't suck at least. Without the attenuator the HRD is way too loud for home use. It seriously goes from 0-2 and that's all the volume adjustment you get.

It's like 40w right? Yeah that might be a little too loud. I'm thinking maybe I should just sell off my amp and cab and grab an old fender champ or champ variant for recording and then find a cheap old Peavey Classic 30 or something if I start playing live. I have a really old trashy 20w ss peavey practice amp and even that gets pretty loud pretty fast.

6w should be enough for recording some shoegaze stuff at home, right? I'm lovin the clean tone of these little amps.

6w may not have the headroom or presence.

I have the HRD on either "completely attenuated" (silent, and I crank up the treble on the attenuator to compensate) or 98% or more attenuated so it's a nice, pleasant conversational volume with the glass singing a little bit.

Without it, it's not suitable for use after 9 or 10 pm without neighbor aggro.

But it does a magical clean w/verb so I keep it for that (and the gain channel is just spitty and nasty as hell on the older ones, and it LOVES the Bee Baa).

[Disarm D'arcy]

Over the years, I've built my perfect apartment and recording amp setup. It's designed around idea that nothing beats the sound of an amp, even at lower volumes.

It starts with a 15 watts Verellen Spaldo head. The speaker output feeds a Palmer PDI-09 DI. Signal is split there. The XLR output feeds my soundcard. The thru feeds a Verellen cab sporting a Weber FC12 12" fane crescendo style speaker. It's miked up with an SE ribbon mic.

This the sound of all my demo vids and guitar tracks.

This setup is awesome. Sounds great at bedroom volumes, sounds great recording, is just as good rehearsing or live, worst case scenario with the help of a mic.

[CyaNitrate]

Over the years, I've built my perfect apartment and recording amp setup. It's designed around idea that nothing beats the sound of an amp, even at lower volumes.

It starts with a 15 watts Verellen Spaldo head. The speaker output feeds a Palmer PDI-09 DI. Signal is split there. The XLR output feeds my soundcard. The thru feeds a Verellen cab sporting a Weber FC12 12" fane crescendo style speaker. It's miked up with an SE ribbon mic.

This the sound of all my demo vids and guitar tracks.

This setup is awesome. Sounds great at bedroom volumes, sounds great recording, is just as good rehearsing or live, worst case scenario with the help of a mic.

This is me being a total recording noob....if you're micing the cab, why split the signal to the sound card also?

[ancientbones]

I haven't been in a shop or looked at a catalog in so long I have no suggestions lol. Nothing lower wattage that doesn't suck at least. Without the attenuator the HRD is way too loud for home use. It seriously goes from 0-2 and that's all the volume adjustment you get.

It's like 40w right? Yeah that might be a little too loud. I'm thinking maybe I should just sell off my amp and cab and grab an old fender champ or champ variant for recording and then find a cheap old Peavey Classic 30 or something if I start playing live. I have a really old trashy 20w ss peavey practice amp and even that gets pretty loud pretty fast.

6w should be enough for recording some shoegaze stuff at home, right? I'm lovin the clean tone of these little amps.

6w may not have the headroom or presence.

I have the HRD on either "completely attenuated" (silent, and I crank up the treble on the attenuator to compensate) or 98% or more attenuated so it's a nice, pleasant conversational volume with the glass singing a little bit.

Without it, it's not suitable for use after 9 or 10 pm without neighbor aggro.

But it does a magical clean w/verb so I keep it for that (and the gain channel is just spitty and nasty as hell on the older ones, and it LOVES the Bee Baa).

Can anyone with a champ or vibro champ give some advice on the headroom issue? I've heard they play nice with pedals

[rfurtkamp]

I've owned them in the past. They've got a reasonable amount of headroom, but won't have depth of bass or get real loud with said headroom.

Basic coffeehouse/bedroom levels, no issue but it won't be tolerant of downtuned brutals.

[ancientbones]

I've owned them in the past. They've got a reasonable amount of headroom, but won't have depth of bass or get real loud with said headroom.

Basic coffeehouse/bedroom levels, no issue but it won't be tolerant of downtuned brutals.

I play in standard. Not really worried about br00tal tones. Just something to record with without deafening the neighborhood. I'd rather have like a deluxe reverb but they're really expensive. I could live with a twin reverb attenuated I suppose too but even that seems like overkill right now. I'm not playing live anytime soon.

[CyaNitrate]

What's your budget? Are you selling the stack to finance the new amp, or keeping it?

[ancientbones]

What's your budget? Are you selling the stack to finance the new amp, or keeping it?

My budget is like around $500. I'm selling the stack. It's taking up more space than I want it to

[Disarm D'arcy]

This is me being a total recording noob....if you're micing the cab, why split the signal to the sound card also?

2 different sources to blend / chose from. Blending both allows me to have the most realistic recorded result