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Dandolin wrote:Got a Keeley Java Boost-iit's aight; does what it's supposed to with out unsanitary mojeaux leakage.

The Subdecay do sound like NoiseBox, but without more tweakage I can't tell if it does all of the tones I get wit minez.

Demo time:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB4oWNxv-AU[/youtube]

Maybe Brian Marshall will stop in to comment?

Chankgeez wrote:

Dandolin wrote:Got a Keeley Java Boost-iit's aight; does what it's supposed to with out unsanitary mojeaux leakage.

The Subdecay do sound like NoiseBox, but without more tweakage I can't tell if it does all of the tones I get wit minez.

Demo time:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB4oWNxv-AU[/youtube]

Maybe Brian Marshall will stop in to comment?

This sounds like an Uglyface with the LFO mod

Chankgeez wrote:Maybe Brian Marshall will stop in to comment?

I just pmed him a personal invite. But I'm just another fuzztomer, so we'll see....

Brian posted last week on the Proteus thread.
As for the Keeley stuff... they might be good, but no interest for me.

Chankgeez wrote:Where the fuck is Keeley? He should be posting in this thread by now.

Not interested as much in the Harmonic Antagonizer, goroth?

Not as yet. There was nothing in the demo that I don't think I could cop with the noise box - so unless this offers a bunch of new sounds or complements the noise box in some way I'm a bit meh on it - but tbh that's more a measure of how much I like the noise box.

Also, Keeley is rad as a duder. OG diy dude. His pedals just haven't been on my nor the collective ilf radar before. But like bob Dylan croaked, the times...

Well, I want their upcoming Cavern's reverb/delay...well, in concept, as there hasn't been any demos yet.

That is a snazzy box.

Yaz, lots of his stuff lately has the snazz appeal.

Really liking the looks on dat DynaTrem:

Inconuucl wrote:Well, I want their upcoming Cavern's reverb/delay...well, in concept, as there hasn't been any demos yet.

Seems like they stole Walrus's graphic designer.

Walrus' graphics are completely different, so I'm going to assume you mean the pedal's features. To me it's more like the baby between the Walrus Descent and the EQD Dispatch Master, which I like.

The Descent was a good idea but poorly executed IMO. I've always liked Keely. He makes some of the best gear out there. You don't hear about it here though because it's not HIP enough. LOL

Well there goes our SEO (not that we really pay much attention to that) Internet is serious business.

So yeah first Brian Marshall is a colossal jerk.

2nd I met keeley at NAMM once back in 2007. He was marginally aware of subdecay existing. He ddn't brush me off like a few other builders did.

The harmonic antagonizer is just an ulyface and the extra knobs don't even do anything. It makes everything sound like this only without the rainbow colors.

I've been working on an explanation for the website to explain the difference between the noisebox and the harmonic antagonizer. There are some major similarities. Both do something similar to the ugly face but through different means. The ugly face uses a 555 timer chip as an oscillator. The former both use a CD4047. Both had/have more going on in them than the ugly face.

This will probably get a little TLDRish

There were three complaints we heard all the time about the noisebox.
1 hard gating
2 gate/squelch control being inside.
3 loss of low end.

The changes are all aimed at addressing those. Normally I make things the way i want them and really don't care if people complain... that's the way they were intended to be... and I'm a colossal jerk so take it or leave it... right?

But really I had the same complaints. I also had another one. I always thought the three knob prototytpe that used an optoisolator sounded better than the production version. Unfortunately LDR based optoisolators contain cadmium which is banned under RoHS in the EU, so basing anything off the early proto was a nonstarter.

Voltage control of the oscillator in the noisebox was kind of a hack circuit with three transistors. Now it's a hack with an OTA IC, but it sounds much closer to the 3 knob proto noisebox.
The other side of that dual OTA is used as the VCA for the ouput giving things a much smoother decay when the input trails off. No more hard gating.
The blend knob blends between the oscillator and a square wave which is always square even when the notes are fading away. Dialing the blend knob back also lets more low-end through.
Internally the sustain knob does a few different things, but really it's all about sustain and telling the output VCA when it's time to settle down.

Anyway I worked until 11:30 and had a couple beers when i got home and need to crash. Maybe I'll cut and paste this to our website tomorrow.

I'd like to nominate that for best builder drop in post of 2015.

Nomination seconded.

Beers + information = 100% good.

Really interesting post Brian

Out of interest, what happened to the voice control on the Noise Box - or rather is there any equivalent to the different sounds you can produce with that in the Antagonizer? And chaos?