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christianatl wrote:

neonblack wrote:Its gonna be hard for them to do anything new. There's an entire scene that's been building on their Shape of Punk to Come blueprint for 15+ years now.

This song is extremely Meh.

I love that record. But it's SO obvious that they were ripping off Swing Kids and Nation of Ulysses.

That's true. They were pretty much just a straight up hardcore band before that. Songs to Fan the Flames was okay, but definitely nothing revolutionary.

I have to wonder what the rest of this will sound like. It says it draws from all the various members disparate influences. As long as it doesn't sound like International Noise Conspiracy I'll give it a shot. I appreciate that he tried to branch out, but folk rock whatever did not suit him.

I still say the production on this song made it kinda Meh. Everything is just so flat sounding.

International Noise Conspiracy was ripping off The Make-Up, the post NOU band fronted by the NOU singer.

Sigh.

Oh, Dennis.

neonblack wrote: Everything is just so flat sounding.

that's just so they can make you buy the vinyl bruh

and i'm sure the vinyl version will sound MCUH BETTER BECUZ VINYL ALWAYS DO



(for real though - i have experienced some albums that really do sound better on vinyl because of the dynamic range )

just a comment, kinda in the guy's defense - look how much screaming he's done. i probably wouldn't even be able to talk anymore.

DarkAxel wrote:

neonblack wrote: Everything is just so flat sounding.

that's just so they can make you buy the vinyl bruh

and i'm sure the vinyl version will sound MCUH BETTER BECUZ VINYL ALWAYS DO



(for real though - i have experienced some albums that really do sound better on vinyl because of the dynamic range )

Oh my god DYNAMIC RANGE.

fun fact: 99.9% of the reason vinyl sounds better is because, if you're a person that likes to believe that vinyl can sound better, you have probably spent a relative ton of money on a setup to make that vinyl sound better, or are listening to it on a system that someone else has put time and effort into.

The medium is inherently flawed, which is why we love it.

it is, of course. But fact is that vinyl releases are (or at least should be) mastered more dynamically. So when you listen to Swans on vinyl (say To Be Kind) and on CD or the official MP3 Download, it's a massive difference when it comes, literally, to the dynamic range between the quiet parts and the crescendos

another example is one LP I have (Gerda Blank - Numbers) which sounds kinda squashed on CD to me, but the vinyl release seems to breathe much more

these are examples i own, not pull out of my ass
also - sarcasm, man

space6oy wrote:just a comment, kinda in the guy's defense - look how much screaming he's done. i probably wouldn't even be able to talk anymore.

I mean, can he scream?

DarkAxel wrote:it is, of course. But fact is that vinyl releases are (or at least should be) mastered more dynamically. So when you listen to Swans on vinyl (say To Be Kind) and on CD or the official MP3 Download, it's a massive difference when it comes, literally, to the dynamic range between the quiet parts and the crescendos

another example is one LP I have (Gerda Blank - Numbers) which sounds kinda squashed on CD to me, but the vinyl release seems to breathe much more

these are examples i own, not pull out of my ass
also - sarcasm, man

It's a refused thread.

WERE GOING TO BE EARNEST AND SHOUTY RAWR

neonblack wrote:

space6oy wrote:just a comment, kinda in the guy's defense - look how much screaming he's done. i probably wouldn't even be able to talk anymore.

I mean, can he scream?

Okay, I actually read the sentence "TSOPTC is pretty overrated" in this thread, and that's... I mean, you know there are bad people out there, but you just wanna believe in a better world, you know?

*crying softly into Jawbreaker t-shirt*

DarkAxel wrote:

neonblack wrote:

space6oy wrote:just a comment, kinda in the guy's defense - look how much screaming he's done. i probably wouldn't even be able to talk anymore.

I mean, can he scream?

I LOL'd at this so hard though

You guys, I've never been so pissed at a guitar riff.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlppElW_DFY[/youtube]

Well, I suppose that's what happens when you fire a dope guitarist.
I was tempted to try and go see them, but now I'm not at all.

casecandy wrote:Okay, I actually read the sentence "TSOPTC is pretty overrated" in this thread, and that's... I mean, you know there are bad people out there, but you just wanna believe in a better world, you know?

*crying softly into Jawbreaker t-shirt*

I mean, it's sort of the hardcore version of OK Computer -- an album that gets cited all the time as being hugely influential, but is it, really?

Unlike OK Computer, though, you can listen to the first two minutes of TSOHTC, get it, and never have to listen to it again.