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vidret wrote:

cedarskies wrote:
make your own favorite switch. cheap and easy and small.

http://www.ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php?f=151&t=19804

the thought has crossed my mind but i'm electrically retarded. i'd fudge it up and it'd cost me 30$ in parts and then i'd throw it away, and i wouldn't get the TRS cable with that either. nope.

much less than $30 in parts (if you were more electronically/diy inclined, or know somebody who is)

DPDT footswitch - $2
stereo jack - $1
1590LB enclosure - $4 (or thrift something for cheap)
8" monoprice right angle TRS cable - $3
= $10 (before shipping)

O.k. - stupid question for a looping dummy. I have a PDS 20/20, and I haven't had any luck with grabbing more than a single note in a loop. If I want to grab an entire phrase, do I have to set the delay slow enough that my entire phrase falls into the gap between delays? Or am I being totally stupid about the whole thing?

I'm thinking about going for a ditto x2 now. It's about the same price as the rc20xl, has a stop foot switch and is much simpler to use.

played a show along w/ a cool dude last night who was doing some live looping w/ a mic and a boss rc30. it was rad.

i think a big thing w/ loopers is just getting used to / vibing w/ the one that u have.. if u know that sucker inside out, it will become more of an extension of your body & mind.

I find the Boss RC-20 perfect. The soft touch switches are crucial for my timing. If only it was 24 bit. I had the 2880 and couldn't get my timing right due to the clickity switches.

I loved my first looper the RC-20XL and still think it sounded best. But if you're playing in a rock band and don't want to play to click you simply must use the Line 6 DL4 or M9/M13 (Had the DL4, Have the M9). The reason is the 'play once' button that lets you re-trigger as often as needed. That way you as a guitarist can play with a drummer and bass player. I love making new riffs from the loop. I have a Ditto after it in the chain, mostly to record my loop fuck-withery. There are better loopers than the Ditto but its just so small I fit it on a board on which I thought there was no more room.

But I love the M9 so much. You can put fx before or after the loop. I had Jack Vaughn http://www.jhv3.com/m-series-mods/ put in a special mod for me. I asked him if he could add a stomp at the top that I could use to make "play once" revert to "play" upon end of the loop via MIDI. And he did! Now I mess with it like a DJ would and it seamlessly goes back to playing the loop.

Dosh and Kid Beyond are the best live loopers I've seen a bunch...

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qdlVLx5q3yQ[/youtube]

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8mlSWWZ9zQ[/youtube]

That Kid Beyond is old now but he uses Ableton and a midi foot controller and it's rad...