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BoatRich wrote:If that doesn't work out DoS/Skip's suggestion is best or the Ibanez es2 for a simple but versatile delay.

I'm really tempted to pick one of these up instead of a Carbon Copy for board 2.

whiskey_face wrote:get a tube echoplex. fuck versatility

and fuck budgets

These things. Especially that last one. I live vicariously through Whiskey's gearmongering.

t-rey wrote:

BoatRich wrote:If that doesn't work out DoS/Skip's suggestion is best or the Ibanez es2 for a simple but versatile delay.

I'm really tempted to pick one of these up instead of a Carbon Copy for board 2.

whiskey_face wrote:get a tube echoplex. fuck versatility

and fuck budgets

These things. Especially that last one. I live vicariously through Whiskey's gearmongering.

I have both, the carbon copy is on my pt mini for size alone, the Ibanez is an all around better delay with way cooler features. It stays on my bass board

Anything wrong with Hardwire DL-8 for you doom breaux? Lots of useful modes, trails can be turned on if that's a must or off if it drives you nuts, simple as fuck to operate. The trickiest thing is learning the procedure for tap mode and the switch sequence for the looper mode, but if you don't need tap, it's basically a three knob delay once you've selected your mode. If you balk at Strymon and Eventide for the menu diving but envy those sounds, this could be a good choice.

Never used one. they sound nice, though.

Gone Fission wrote:Anything wrong with Hardwire DL-8 for you doom breaux? Lots of useful modes, trails can be turned on if that's a must or off if it drives you nuts, simple as fuck to operate. The trickiest thing is learning the procedure for tap mode and the switch sequence for the looper mode, but if you don't need tap, it's basically a three knob delay once you've selected your mode. If you balk at Strymon and Eventide for the menu diving but envy those sounds, this could be a good choice.

Man, I picked one of these up during musician's friend christmas sale for $60. I am very impressed - I wanted to replace my true bypass delay with something with trails, and this fit the bill really nicely. I have no complaints, and the interface is quite easy to learn. I use it with their supernatural reverb for ambient parts, but honestly I like the delay better than most of the modes on the supernatural. The only ones I use on that pedal are the plate and spring, because all the modulation sounds like ass.

The DL4 has the sweeeet looper, and obviously more than enough nice sounding delays. Most of all it can be had cheapish, and it's way more user friendly than any of the pricey competitors. The delaylab goes a little further though, and it's still considerably cheaper than the eventide/strymon stuff.

The Empress VMSD is yet another step up, it's also cheaper than the space and timeline, and it's a bit more compact. Had one, and sold it, cause I felt like I was operating a nuclear submarine instead of making music. I'm probably just dumb, but as awesome as the superdelay sounds, it's a bitch to operate.

Not even sure where the DD20, and the EHX and TC stuff fit in. Whatever, I'm sure they're all great.

Anyway, I ended up with an analog delay, and a compact digital delay that does all I need, and unlike the above, not a ton of other less uselefull stuff. Costs less money, takes up less space, and causes less headaches.

DL-8 and Ibanez ES-2 are the weapons of my choice. I highly recommend both. Together they still costs about $9388.21 less than a strymentide, and the shit you can do with a quality versatile digital delay into a analog delay that has tap tempo, modulation, 1s of delay time, an osscilation switch...It'll make you not give a flying fuck about banks or presets or fucking tone prints.

BoatRich wrote:I have both, the carbon copy is on my pt mini for size alone, the Ibanez is an all around better delay with way cooler features. It stays on my bass board

I snagged that DL4. Anyone got any tips on awesome settings on this thing? I just did a factory reset.

did you swindle that one on CL for 100$?

No, I straight traded for a modded DL4. Its got upgraded footswitches (soft-switches) and some weird "blend" knob on the top that was added. Supposedly the blend knob doubles the preset storage capacity and allows you to mix two entirely different preset settings together.

I'm a Bassman guy. This thing has more than three knobs...

I use a Boss DD-20 Giga Delay. For the price they go for used they do a a lot. I find it to be pretty user friendly. However, I think if you plan on spending a lot of time twisting knobs while you are performing it would not be ideal. Editing the pre-sets on the fly can be clunky. I mainly use delay to add "flavor" to distorted guitar. The four presets are easy to navigate in a live setting. The looper is a pretty basic, one button deal.

The DL4 is a lot of fun. The addition of the modded "blend preset" knob was a bit confusing at first. I just lost two hours to knob fiddling.

vidret wrote:any ILFDD/sunny day delay vs multiplex 1776 comparisons?

Not yet, I very much want to try the SDD though.

Gone Fission wrote:Anything wrong with Hardwire DL-8 for you doom breaux? Lots of useful modes, trails can be turned on if that's a must or off if it drives you nuts, simple as fuck to operate. The trickiest thing is learning the procedure for tap mode and the switch sequence for the looper mode, but if you don't need tap, it's basically a three knob delay once you've selected your mode. If you balk at Strymon and Eventide for the menu diving but envy those sounds, this could be a good choice.

This is a crazy good sleeper delay that sounds good even when slammed with dirt. I never use the loop (ditto, baby) but once you have the tap sequence down it's very easy to use and goes stupid long...if it's a pita to use, it's mostly b/c the switching mechanism isn't great.

Maybe they've been discontinued or MF has some cache of them, but they have re-appeared a few times @ $60 before becoming unavailable again.