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Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:05 pm
by Ev_O)))
Jeff caxide used the boss ps-3 yeah? Could be cool. A PDS 20/20 or 8000 or something would get you there as well for sure.
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:28 pm
by Scruffie
Hmm, I could loan you my Hardwire DL-8 while you loan me your DMM?

Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:48 pm
by rustywire
DarkAxel wrote:Ah well... with the currency rates, those are WAY above my budget
Getting Tristan's RI DMM would actually be quite cheaper for me

still above that though. And again trying to make things clear - I'm not necessarily looking for something that can do DMM sounds. I'm just looking for a delay to put in the empty space vacated by the DMM, literally

Understood. FWIW,.....something interesting with vintage DMMs; they tend to be at their noisiest/maximum white noise in repeats when fed a clean signal from the lower strings and the Delay time is above ~300ms. Open E on guitar and up the first few frets are enough to really bring it out of my DMMs. Bass with flatwounds really gets "windy"
Most analog delays tend to display similar behavior (except the Carbon Copy) and as a result do not "cut" in most applications.
So maybe go for the Carbon Copy. I still need to grab another (only sold to help fund a rare pedal and CCs can be had from anywhere)
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:51 pm
by sonidero
Flashback... It's got pages of bass toneprints, check their vids... Pretty much what you're describing and is cheap...
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:56 pm
by PeteeBee
Love my malekko 616 dark. Great interesting tone that gets out of the way. The first couple repeats can be rhythmic, after that they're just filling in space a bit. I like how the modulation seems to modulate darker... Like the opposite of a shimmer. And the buffer is great. Basically no complaints from me at all.
It filled in next toy flashback because mostly used the analog setting on that, freeing it up for other weird stuff like reverse. Thing is I like the 616 more for everything. Flashback is getting the boot once I get a dedicated looper.
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:00 am
by leaves turn
Big fan of the Belle Epoch. Decays and modulates beautifully. Great sounding preamp (makes a great fuzzstortion when hit hard). Love setting the Rec Level at the edge of breakup so that the repeats distort at volume swell peaks. Love getting my Justin Trosper on with this thing
they really should've made the input gain trim an external pot though
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:49 am
by DarkAxel
while mentioning the Flashback and such... I just realized we have an Alter Ego and an Alter Ego X4 at our store (also a T2... and i thought theyy were PGS exclusive?). I was quite pleasantly surprised by some of the algorithms, might do some in-depth testing next week

That might be an interesting choice if i want cleaner and digital, but like those character-oriented circuits such as DMM, Echorec etc... Have to spend some time with it though
the X4 is quite expensive even with my discount and is too huge though

but man... does it seem worth it

Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:43 am
by Hyphen Nation
Disaster Transport Sr? Lunar Echo from DMB. It's often overlooked and a really great analog delay, with lots of controls. Most demos on the youtubes blow, though.
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:49 am
by goroth
Scruffie wrote:Hmm, I could loan you my Hardwire DL-8 while you loan me your DMM?

Do this.
The bassist before the bassist before the previous bassist in my band had a DL-8 and it sounded awesome, and also had a short (8 sec??) looping function. It was one of those delays that just sat well in the mix.
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:21 am
by DarkAxel
Wish I had enough money for DT Sr., truly...
Will see about the DL-8

will keep that in mind, cheers Scruffie
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:01 pm
by frigid midget
vidret wrote:de7
Don't be hatin
That's actually not a bad idea. It does a surprisingly good job at mimmicking analog delay tones, and it's clear and present enough compared to a lot of analog delays that tend to be too mushy and dark. Not sure if you care at all, but it's got a dry out, just like your dmm if I'm not mistaking. Also ofcourse, it's dirt cheap, meaning you can pend whatever you're saving on some other nice toy

Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:33 pm
by frigid midget
goroth wrote:Scruffie wrote:Hmm, I could loan you my Hardwire DL-8 while you loan me your DMM?

Do this.
The bassist before the bassist before the previous bassist in my band had a DL-8 and it sounded awesome, and also had a short (8 sec??) looping function. It was one of those delays that just sat well in the mix.
Yeah, another DL8 vote here. I'll admit, the price tag was a also a big factor when I had to choose between the DL8 or a DD7, but other than those two, I can't think of many other versatile all-in one digital delays that are affordable and don't take up too much precious board space. Like you said, it just sits well in the mix, better so than my old DD-5 which wasn't even too shabby eather. I guess it's down to personal taste, I'm kinda picky when it comes to the sound of the repeats, especially in a loud band context.
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:43 pm
by frigid midget
Hyphen Nation wrote:Disaster Transport Sr? Lunar Echo from DMB. It's often overlooked and a really great analog delay, with lots of controls. Most demos on the youtubes blow, though.
"In general, I think I'd like to go digital this time (includes analogue-voiced digi delays of course)"
That, plus the $339 price tag, would probably rule out the indeed otherwhise super awesome DMB.
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:16 pm
by DarkAxel
Don't get me wrong - I'd love to try some of those exquisite delays some day, there's no prejudice against expensive gear. But I'm sort of trying not to buy pedals which would cost the same money as my instrument did
and it would cost me the majority of the money I have at my disposal right now. Including the money for a new kitchen table
when mentioning the Boss DD series... no love for the RV-3 I initially asked about as well?
Re: Need to retire DMM from gigging -> need replacement
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:28 pm
by DarkAxel
I do already have the AW7, had PH7 and played FZ7, so I know they are cool pedals... but the damn unreliable switching :/