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Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:32 pm
by Jwar
All that space and couldn't even top mount it.

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:08 pm
by Ghost Hip
Mike wrote:
PetZounds wrote:Let's try to perpetuate some rumors about true bypass.
A little known fact about the standard blue 3PDT switches is that, at moderately high volumes, the spring and the metal actuator contained within the switch can create phase-aligned sympathetic resonances, both sub-harmonic and super-harmonic. While you can't actually hear the dreaded "blue 3PDT resonance"-- a term coined in the early 1980s-- the frequencies do interact with frequencies in the audible range, resulting in unpredictable frequency cancellation.

This can be minimized during the switch manufacturing process by using a specific quantity and type of grease to lubricate the mechanical components of the switch. Unfortunately, near the end of the 1970s, international agreements were put in place that prohibited the use of that lubricant due to its high toxicity. A suitable substitute was found, however it is very heat-sensitive. Simply soldering the switch changes the viscosity of the lubricant, and that all but guarantees that you will experience the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance.

That is why your setup sounds good most of the time, but some days, it just doesn't sound right. Maybe it is dull, maybe it sounds like there is a blanket over the speakers, maybe it just sounds different than you remembered. That, my friends, is the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance. It stifles creativity, and must be avoided at all costs.

If you must use a bypass, buffered bypass is the only way to go. Anyone who uses true bypass is a fool.
ILF Post of the Summer. :lol:

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:32 pm
by goroth
zRobertez wrote:I find my tone is actually enhanced if I plug straight into the speakers
Don't you notice a distinct loss of tone using a cable? I run cable less to my amp and my tone couldn't be better. I was actually just trolling with all that talk of tb and buffers. Lulz!

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:21 pm
by Ro_S
I have 7 Visual Sound pedals. Even their budget GarageTone pedals have their special buffered bypass.

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:25 pm
by Jwar
KaosCill8r wrote:
Achtane wrote:ATTN BUFFER FANS: EAT MY FUCK
YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE TRANSPARENCY OFFERED BY MY HONDA SOUND WORKS "SPICE"
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What the fuck!!!!!!!!! I'm sure it's super transparent. Does it work like a crystal lattice? :lol:

If anyone wants. I'm planning on doing a super limited run of these. SUPER LIMITED. It will have some really cool graphics and double as an ashtray if need be. Hit me up!








































































True bypass my sack.

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:26 pm
by rfurtkamp
Will your special run have the circuits...gooped with special sauces?

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:28 pm
by Jwar
rfurtkamp wrote:Will your special run have the circuits...gooped with special sauces?
Oh I'll make sure to put a mason jar full of goop in there.


Where's that picture? :)

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:07 pm
by Gone Fission
rfurtkamp wrote:Will your special run have the circuits...gooped with special sauces?
NOS vintage switch lube?

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:46 pm
by Sparrow
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Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:56 am
by rfurtkamp
Gone Fission wrote:
rfurtkamp wrote:Will your special run have the circuits...gooped with special sauces?
NOS vintage switch lube?
Only if it's specially-caressed and selected by Bohemian hipsters drinking absinthe and killing each other slowly.

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:31 am
by ChetMagongalo
Mike wrote:
PetZounds wrote:Let's try to perpetuate some rumors about true bypass.
A little known fact about the standard blue 3PDT switches is that, at moderately high volumes, the spring and the metal actuator contained within the switch can create phase-aligned sympathetic resonances, both sub-harmonic and super-harmonic. While you can't actually hear the dreaded "blue 3PDT resonance"-- a term coined in the early 1980s-- the frequencies do interact with frequencies in the audible range, resulting in unpredictable frequency cancellation.

This can be minimized during the switch manufacturing process by using a specific quantity and type of grease to lubricate the mechanical components of the switch. Unfortunately, near the end of the 1970s, international agreements were put in place that prohibited the use of that lubricant due to its high toxicity. A suitable substitute was found, however it is very heat-sensitive. Simply soldering the switch changes the viscosity of the lubricant, and that all but guarantees that you will experience the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance.

That is why your setup sounds good most of the time, but some days, it just doesn't sound right. Maybe it is dull, maybe it sounds like there is a blanket over the speakers, maybe it just sounds different than you remembered. That, my friends, is the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance. It stifles creativity, and must be avoided at all costs.

If you must use a bypass, buffered bypass is the only way to go. Anyone who uses true bypass is a fool.
Wow, that was really impressive.

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:18 am
by goroth
jwar wrote:
rfurtkamp wrote:Will your special run have the circuits...gooped with special sauces?
Oh I'll make sure to put a mason jar full of goop in there.


Where's that picture? :)
Hahahaha!

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:09 pm
by zRobertez
I read an article about how people have started to put goop on their fingers because that's where the tone really is and you don't want to give away your secrets to pure unaffected tone. Infused with drops of lemon oil to clean your fretboard at the same time

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:36 pm
by goroth
After reading about the Freakish Blues, I thought goop might help my toan. First I smeared it in my electronics, but while that increased the lettuce I couldn't really find the mids I wanted in a bedroom gig situation. So I gooped the entire fretboard, reasoning that if I can't see the electronics and it sounds better, it must sound even better if I can't see what I'm playing at all. Now there was a tangible improvement in my tone. It really felt alive, especially with minor pentatonics. But I found that major pentatonics weren't really jumping at me in the way that sends my wife straight into the arms of another man, so I thought what the fudge, if I'm going to get on the P&W team I've gotta go the whole hog. So I gooped my entire guitar. A little like the Manhattan Museum of Art in Ghostbusters II. I think I'm almost there, but I'm considering replacing my whole guitar with a lettuce of goop, and just running that direct into my 100 stack I've attenuated down to a half watt. What do you guys think?

Re: I LOVE BUFFERS

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:03 pm
by backwardsvoyager
goroth wrote:After reading about the Freakish Blues, I thought goop might help my toan. First I smeared it in my electronics, but while that increased the lettuce I couldn't really find the mids I wanted in a bedroom gig situation. So I gooped the entire fretboard, reasoning that if I can't see the electronics and it sounds better, it must sound even better if I can't see what I'm playing at all. Now there was a tangible improvement in my tone. It really felt alive, especially with minor pentatonics. But I found that major pentatonics weren't really jumping at me in the way that sends my wife straight into the arms of another man, so I thought what the fudge, if I'm going to get on the P&W team I've gotta go the whole hog. So I gooped my entire guitar. A little like the Manhattan Museum of Art in Ghostbusters II. I think I'm almost there, but I'm considering replacing my whole guitar with a lettuce of goop, and just running that direct into my 100 stack I've attenuated down to a half watt. What do you guys think?
I think you need to seriously consider what that goop is doing to the resale value of your PRS, sir. Would you cover your Porsche in goop? Guitars are investments and silly things like gooping, modding, and playing them isn't going to increase your personal worth. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. What we NEED are guitars that are gooped at the factory, by Bill Finnegan himself, to ensure a perfect lettuce structure.