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Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:00 pm
by rustywire
EHX is the master of this. POG, Freeze, DMM-TT, Holy Grail...Big Muff Pi.

Klon, Klon, Klon.

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:43 pm
by Ro_S
cedarskies wrote:I've been using my OneSpot (+adapter) to power my DL4. Am I going to destroy it?
I use a VS 1 Spot. For the DL4 you're supposed to use the little Line 6 adaptor pigtail lead that VS produce. It can be bought separately and is included in the bundle combo pack they do.

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:46 pm
by Ro_S
rustywire wrote:EHX is the master of this. POG, Freeze, DMM-TT, Holy Grail...Big Muff Pi.
The POG seems very expensive and has limited functionality. I'm happy with my Behringer US600 (Boss PS5 clone).

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:57 pm
by MEC
Megalith and Timmy.

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:04 pm
by leaves turn
GardenoftheDead wrote: Alright, I'm gonna go here: True Bypass as a marketing gimmick.

Cause that's basically what it is.
This is something I'd like to see go. Keeping true bypass relays quiet on a heavily digital board is not fun. Buffers are really slick by comparison. But you gotta give the customer what they want, so...

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:17 pm
by friendship
leaves turn wrote:
GardenoftheDead wrote: Alright, I'm gonna go here: True Bypass as a marketing gimmick.

Cause that's basically what it is.
This is something I'd like to see go. Keeping true bypass relays quiet on a heavily digital board is not fun. Buffers are really slick by comparison. But you gotta give the customer what they want, so...
On the flipside, there once was a time when companies would put any ol' terrible buffer in their pedals, and we really wanted more true bypass for this reason, i.e. they couldn't fuck up a buffer if there wasn't one. I got rid of some cool effects because of this stupid problem, most notably the Alesis Akira which I loved but made your signal sound like a goblin jizzed porridge all over it.

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:21 pm
by sonidero
This is hard, I wanna say what everyone else has said and I will;El Cap and Pharaoh... I was trying to think back in the olden days before because the internet and come up with something but it seems that internet created hype on pedlols of yore and we can only think current... There are pedals I can forecast to live up to the hype but we haven't gotten there yet...

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:29 pm
by leaves turn
friendship wrote:
leaves turn wrote:
GardenoftheDead wrote: Alright, I'm gonna go here: True Bypass as a marketing gimmick.

Cause that's basically what it is.
This is something I'd like to see go. Keeping true bypass relays quiet on a heavily digital board is not fun. Buffers are really slick by comparison. But you gotta give the customer what they want, so...
On the flipside, there once was a time when companies would put any ol' terrible buffer in their pedals, and we really wanted more true bypass for this reason, i.e. they couldn't fuck up a buffer if there wasn't one. I got rid of some cool effects because of this stupid problem, most notably the Alesis Akira which I loved but made your signal sound like a goblin jizzed porridge all over it.
That's true too. I'm not against true bypass nor am I pro-buffer; what gets me down is the popular demand for a feature that, for the most part, doesn't make a difference for the customer but can end up complicating gear development.

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:30 pm
by D.o.S.
friendship wrote:
leaves turn wrote:
GardenoftheDead wrote: Alright, I'm gonna go here: True Bypass as a marketing gimmick.

Cause that's basically what it is.
This is something I'd like to see go. Keeping true bypass relays quiet on a heavily digital board is not fun. Buffers are really slick by comparison. But you gotta give the customer what they want, so...
On the flipside, there once was a time when companies would put any ol' terrible buffer in their pedals, and we really wanted more true bypass for this reason, i.e. they couldn't fuck up a buffer if there wasn't one. I got rid of some cool effects because of this stupid problem, most notably the Alesis Akira which I loved but made your signal sound like a goblin jizzed porridge all over it.
Yeah. After dealing with the DOD bypass... I'll keep TBP all day, thank you very much.

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:31 pm
by D.o.S.
sonidero wrote:This is hard, I wanna say what everyone else has said and I will;El Cap and Pharaoh... I was trying to think back in the olden days before because the internet and come up with something but it seems that internet created hype on pedlols of yore and we can only think current... There are pedals I can forecast to live up to the hype but we haven't gotten there yet...
A couple of good companies that couldn't survive the hype are Schumann and Lovetone

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:41 pm
by sonidero
D.o.S. wrote:A couple of good companies that couldn't survive the hype are Schumann and Lovetone
Yeah I was never really into those even though Kevin likes Lovetone... I can think of a bunch of sound gear (sonidero) that was hyped over the years and usually what outlives is the stuff that people thought was too expensive or too complicated...

I can think of moar pedals that don't get enough hype but that's another episode...

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:47 pm
by new05002
true bypass is more consistent compared to buffered bypass. There is only 2 ways I can think of doing true bypass (relay bypass and regular 3PDT bypass) where as there is many ways to do buffered bypass

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:33 pm
by Ghost Hip
The 'Hype'rion. I still love my Supernatural reverb. Ditto looper. The TAFM was being hyped by board members back when these were devi ever forums (2009ish?) and that pedal is still kicking ass.

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:43 pm
by rustywire
D.o.S. wrote:
sonidero wrote:This is hard, I wanna say what everyone else has said and I will;El Cap and Pharaoh... I was trying to think back in the olden days before because the internet and come up with something but it seems that internet created hype on pedlols of yore and we can only think current... There are pedals I can forecast to live up to the hype but we haven't gotten there yet...
A couple of good companies that couldn't survive the hype are Schumann and Lovetone
And Ross, Addrock, Frostwave :no:

Re: Pedals that have outlived the hype

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:29 am
by Bartimaeus
Holy Schnikes wrote:The Polytune really did put a stranglehold on the tuner market. I have the mini and don't even use the Polytune feature. I just like the small footprint, nice display, low price, and accuracy. Hard to beat.
I'm surprised at how well the Polytune mini is still doing, considering it's quality issues. Though I guess that's the case DL4 as well, as pointed out.

friendship wrote:I'm pretty impressed that the DL4 has stayed popular for this long.
I mainly see it used as a looper by pros at least, and in that regard it's still hard to beat, what with the ability to quickly loop, reverse, and double speed for weird reverse sitar sounds. I don't think that it's still as relevant for its delay sounds.