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Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:20 pm
by Derelict78

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:30 pm
by skullservant
Hahah yeah I saw that guy. That's part of why I started the thread. Along with uncontrollable GAS for a Verellen Pre

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:44 pm
by Derelict78
Here too buddy. I need to find a classic 120/120 first before I start shopping for a pre but I do find myself at Verellen's site more often than I should!

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:15 pm
by Doctor X

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:15 pm
by Bellyheart


Love the first tube sounds.

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:16 pm
by Ro_S
There's certainly a lot more real tube dirt pedals out there in recent years than there used to be.

I used to really be just the Tube Works/Chandler one (as used by Gilmour and Eric Johnson) and the Radial Tonebone series.

I've noticed that real tube dirt pedals don't hold thier value very well used, so can be had very affordably on ebay second-hand (at least in UK).

There's the Ibanez TK999 Tube King (the discontinued silver one; not the diamond-shaped one!). It was designed by Chandler I believe. The Maxon-branded ROD880 is identical.

Look out for the Nady TD1 (the modern version, not the 80s one). It's discontinued but one might turn up. Brian Wampler regards it very well. It seems to be based on the Radial Tonebone Classic - at least in terms of its controls.
http://www.nady.com/td1.html

I would also recommend any of the real tube overdrives made by Coopersonic. such as:

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This is my Coopersonic dual tube beast:
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Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:27 pm
by skullservant
Bellyheart wrote:

Love the first tube sounds.
Yeah, that first tube does sound awesome. I love how it gets octavey
Ro_S wrote:There's certainly a lot more real tube dirt pedals out there in recent years than there used to be.

I used to really be just the Tube Works/Chandler one (as used by Gilmour and Eric Johnson) and the Radial Tonebone series.

I've noticed that real tube dirt pedals don't hold thier value very well used, so can be had very affordably on ebay second-hand (at least in UK).

There's the Ibanez TK999 Tube King (the discontinued silver one; not the diamond-shaped one!). It was designed by Chandler I believe. The Maxon-branded ROD880 is identical.

Look out for the Nady TD1 (the modern version, not the 80s one). It's discontinued but one might turn up. Brian Wampler regards it very well. It seems to be based on the Radial Tonebone Classic - at least in terms of its controls.
http://www.nady.com/td1.html

I would also recommend any of the real tube overdrives made by Coopersonic. such as:

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This is my Coopersonic dual tube beast:
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Those Coopersonics sound pretty awesome as well. Just listened to the GMD Valveslapper demo which was pretty good. Tons of gain on tap too it seems

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:28 pm
by skullservant
Also, Ro_S, any gutshots on that guy??

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:36 pm
by Gone Fission
I snagged a Damage Control Liquid Blues for $80 when they were blowing them out over 4 years ago. Ought to get it back out sometime since it gives a very nice clean-ish base tone. The boost switch was fart city, though.

(I have a weird block about using it since it's footprint is about the same as my ZT Lunchbox that I got a bit later. Fucked up a bit since I don't mind putting a lot more total acreage into pedals than amps.)

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:45 pm
by Ro_S
skullservant wrote:Also, Ro_S, any gutshots on that guy??
My Coopersonic? I'll try, some time. Inside I recall it being very, er.. interesting and ...um, rustic(!). Mine is serial no. #131, dated May 2008. The people who design and make it are from the indie band Six by Seven.

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:19 am
by univalve
Guys, could we stop talking that bullshit with "asume starve voltage because of 9, 12, 18 Volt input" please?! That is not a proper indicator. Most of the tube pedals have internal transormators and run the tubes within normal specs.

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:38 am
by Jero
univalve wrote:Guys, could we stop talking that bullshit with "asume starve voltage because of 9, 12, 18 Volt input" please?! That is not a proper indicator. Most of the tube pedals have internal transormators and run the tubes within normal specs.
I'm not incorrect in the ones I mentioned (if this is even towards me)

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:54 pm
by univalve
No. Wasn't pointed at anyone specific. But that Argument always comes up in discussion about tube based pedals and annoys me quite a bit ;)

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:58 pm
by new05002
the answer is really no. In order to get anything like the tube preamp sounds in an amp you need sufficiently large B+ say 200-400V, and you need proper heater voltage of 6.3V (give or take) at 300 mA. The average power supply you use on your board is just not going to cut that and bam you back at needing a transformer and essentially your back to a preamp.

Re: Any decent tube pedals out there that don't cost a ton?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:10 pm
by D.o.S.
new05002 wrote:the answer is really no.
D.o.S. wrote:Trogotronic 77.
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