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Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:02 pm
by louderthangod
Blackened Soul wrote:Drone is about droning. Volume and effects don't matter, they just help you get the sound you want but you can drone on acoustic instruments. A big part is you have to want to play music that is of a drone nature.
Well said. I think both electric and acoustic drone have a lot to offer and my current project isn't strictly drone but it has drone elements and we use an electric guitar, bass and drums as well as a violin and cello and a synth. One thing I'd like to see in more drone bands, especially live are more extreme dynamics. A room full of warm volume can be a magical, experience where the volume is so overwhelming but not harsh that you find that point where your mind just finally turns off and just submits. Embracing the quiet moments though can build a lot of tension and really set up that wall of wonderful, powerful noise.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:47 am
by Blackened Soul
I agree, but I'm not a big super pile of amps on ten playing one chord for 20 min person anyway, I don't even use amps for any of my drone stuff.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:51 am
by AxAxSxS
Blackened Soul wrote:I agree, but I'm not a big super pile of amps on ten playing one chord for 20 min person anyway, I don't even use amps for any of my drone stuff.
This one knows things.
THINGS THAT SHOULD NOT BE KNOWN!
But seriously I love your stuff.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:43 pm
by mc_muench
I was definitely forgetting a major part of Drone... DAT FEEL. Thanks for pointing that out, I can totally get behind the acoustic/other instruments thing. Drone doesnt need to be massive stacks and FUZZ.
Thats a great way to look at it.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:54 pm
by louderthangod
Blackened Soul wrote:I agree, but I'm not a big super pile of amps on ten playing one chord for 20 min person anyway, I don't even use amps for any of my drone stuff.
No amps? On one of the songs I heard on bandcamp it really sounds an awful lot like there's delay on the bass. It was just through my phone so I couldn't tell if it was an electric or actoustic bass but either way, even if you're running through someone else's amps (like the PA) that's not really the same thing as a purely acoustic instrument like what you would hear from your typical unamplified symphony. I'm not knocking it....both certainly have their virtues in my book.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:09 am
by Blackened Soul
louderthangod wrote:Blackened Soul wrote:I agree, but I'm not a big super pile of amps on ten playing one chord for 20 min person anyway, I don't even use amps for any of my drone stuff.
No amps? On one of the songs I heard on bandcamp it really sounds an awful lot like there's delay on the bass. It was just through my phone so I couldn't tell if it was an electric or actoustic bass but either way, even if you're running through someone else's amps (like the PA) that's not really the same thing as a purely acoustic instrument like what you would hear from your typical unamplified symphony. I'm not knocking it....both certainly have their virtues in my book.
I use a LOT of reverb on mixes and delay as well yes but what I mean by no amps is I record direct or use a mic on a acoustic instrument, I'm talking about stuff like sunn where the sound IS amps, not that I don't use electric basses and guitars and pickups and effects
. The reason is not because I disslike amps and amp tones but I don't want warmth [which I get no matter what even if I don't want it], and also so I can record whenever I want without dealing issues like getting the right sound at the time or getting yelled at
I do plan on doing a full acoustic instrumentation without effects mixed with nature sounds one day though, my only problem is I want to records my own sounds vs licencing stuff
but here is some acoustic stuff [double bass].. with some reverb. And yes they are more then one track.. I'm not "that" good
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/backened-soul/wound[/soundcloud]
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/backened-soul/when-my-heart-turn-cold[/soundcloud]
ps. sorry for all the fucking typos and whatever, I have a cold and am trying to function but I'm still really not all there or here or something, sorry.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:04 am
by D.o.S.
Blackened Soul wrote:I don't want warmth... I have a cold
It follows.
Also, fuzzbreax who're reading this should check out the Koorikuma stuff. It's fine cuts of drone in the kosmiche yawn-of-the-universe variety, loads of low end with generous glacial wind chime accoutremonts.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:54 pm
by louderthangod
I got all of the stuff off your band camp....very cool. Do you ever try to perform this live? Are your songs well worked out ahead of time or is there an improvisational element to them?
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:24 am
by Blackened Soul
louderthangod wrote:I got all of the stuff off your band camp....very cool. Do you ever try to perform this live? Are your songs well worked out ahead of time or is there an improvisational element to them?
Thank you!
No I haven't yet, I've thought about it but I'm still unsure if I could come close to reproducing what I do to a point where I'd be happy [I still want to though] and I'd say it's over 90% improvisational, even with all the tracks I do on some of them, such as falling off a cloud, it was pretty much me messing around with a phaser and wah for 40 minutes with no thought about anything at all going into it, it just happened to get recorded but even that wasn't intentional at the time
I just do whatever comes to mind at the time, so everything you hear was recorded right as I was coming up with whatever I was doing, I think I have maybe three that I worked out the main part ahead of time, and I have at least once recorded a "new" one then listened back and realised I ripped myself off
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:55 am
by kbit
louderthangod wrote: Embracing the quiet moments though can build a lot of tension and really set up that wall of wonderful, powerful noise.
I agree with a lot of things on this page, but especially this.
Problem is people talk too fucking music at shows sometimes.
Which would totally ruin the quiet vibe for me.
Not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, but seriously that shit sucks.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:14 pm
by Blackened Soul
kbithecrowing wrote:louderthangod wrote: Embracing the quiet moments though can build a lot of tension and really set up that wall of wonderful, powerful noise.
I agree with a lot of things on this page, but especially this.
Problem is people talk too fucking music at shows sometimes.
Which would totally ruin the quiet vibe for me.
Not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, but seriously that shit sucks.
god I hate people that talk at shows, to me most of all!
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:01 pm
by louderthangod
We had a song with a 9 minute quiet part at the end, I think it was our best song but our singer refused to do the last part because of people talking. I still think it's bullshit. I know Low is special and gets special treatment but I've seen them play super quiet and crowds follow. My singer just didn't want to deal with the confrontation required to shut people up. It's especially frustrating seeing people do this at shows when they could easily be at the bar, out back or some other place enjoying their conversation and not bugging anyone.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:45 am
by D.o.S.
I think checking your phone is worse than talking. Nothing gets me out of the zone more than realizing that whatever I'm doing isn't gnar enough for someone to just dig it and not check their fucking phone whilst the awesome is flowing into their ears.
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:56 am
by Blackened Soul
D.o.S. wrote:I think checking your phone is worse than talking. Nothing gets me out of the zone more than realizing that whatever I'm doing isn't gnar enough for someone to just dig it and not check their fucking phone whilst the awesome is flowing into their ears.
Hey!
>Hey!
I'm like experiencing this thing!
>really?
Yeah it's so cool I almost forgot to text about it!
>wow really LOL
yeah I'm like like totally captivated
>that's so awesome!
I'll sent you a pict of me experiencing this so you can see
>ok
Re: How to DrO)))ne
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:47 am
by D.o.S.
I mean, I tell myself that's the gist of the conversation.
It is interesting, though--I came up going to metal and punk shows, and I really have no problem with people doing their thing when the music is, for lack of a better term, not serious. Some shows are meant to be parties. Some of the best shows I've played and been to have been like that. But it's can be a real blow to your artistic ego when you're doing "serious" music and people are fucking off.