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Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:22 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
Officer Bukowski wrote:Casavettes wrote:Helter wrote:I think you would really like a rangemaster clone.
hmm, is the sparkle motion considered a rangemaster clone?
I was going to say the same thing! (re: Rangemaster)
The Sparkle Motion is not a clone. I found it to be pretty different sounding from the clone that I made. It's a great pedal of course!
Sounds pretty similar to one I made on whichever switch setting won't give a crazy bass boost.

But I just used whatever transistor I had lying around and probably different component values, so maybe mine didn't sound anything like a 'normal' rangemaster clone.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:37 pm
by Officer Bukowski
Well yeah of course they're similar I'm talking like nerd differences

Most people increase the bass by increasing the value of the input cap. This leaves the output cap at 10n which will always cut low end on bass. The circuit really wouldn't sound that good with values that wouldn't cut low end though IMO.
It's ok to play around with the values. The "stock" resistor values won't necessarily be ideal for biasing your particular transistor anyways. But of course subbing other values without any strategy isn't the best plan for a good sounding pedal.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:57 pm
by moose23
Yeah I've sworn by it for a good while now too. Built myself a TFR with 5088s leaving off the tone and gain recovery stage and use that as my main always on drive before my Dobsky Fuzz.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:59 pm
by CaptainWampum
For a long time I just used a Fulltone 69 and my volume knob. Works GRRREAT!
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:33 pm
by skullservant
I've been back and forth with this. I set my Mini to be more fuzzy than drive like, but then I run an Interstellar Overdriver as a drive after it. Bleeeeh. The Blunderbuss rules at low to mid gain as well, although I don't use it that way.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 7:15 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
Officer Bukowski wrote:Well yeah of course they're similar I'm talking like nerd differences

Most people increase the bass by increasing the value of the input cap. This leaves the output cap at 10n which will always cut low end on bass. The circuit really wouldn't sound that good with values that wouldn't cut low end though IMO.
It's ok to play around with the values. The "stock" resistor values won't necessarily be ideal for biasing your particular transistor anyways. But of course subbing other values without any strategy isn't the best plan for a good sounding pedal.

Fair enough! I would like to try one of those super fancy 'vintage-correct' type rangemasters sometime. When I made mine I tried changing a few things, tried the variable input cap thing, which gets some cool sounds but I agree that the full treble boost into a loud amp is where the magic is.
If I was going to do it again (and I probably will!) I'll look into mojo transistors and proper values and stuff, do a really nice one. Or just buy one because I'm lazy, eh.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:20 pm
by big jilm
Chankgeez wrote:blanket wrote:big jilm wrote:A lot of good advice in this thread.
Also a harmonic percolator -specially with the diodes lifted- does a great overdrive sound.
Interested. Which harm perc clones have a switch for bypassing the clipping?
I've got a Fredric.
Me too! I believe the diode switch is pretty common with this pedal.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:37 pm
by echodeluxe
yes, but i cant talk about which one.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:49 pm
by Officer Bukowski
monkeydancer wrote:Officer Bukowski wrote:Well yeah of course they're similar I'm talking like nerd differences

Most people increase the bass by increasing the value of the input cap. This leaves the output cap at 10n which will always cut low end on bass. The circuit really wouldn't sound that good with values that wouldn't cut low end though IMO.
It's ok to play around with the values. The "stock" resistor values won't necessarily be ideal for biasing your particular transistor anyways. But of course subbing other values without any strategy isn't the best plan for a good sounding pedal.

Fair enough! I would like to try one of those super fancy 'vintage-correct' type rangemasters sometime. When I made mine I tried changing a few things, tried the variable input cap thing, which gets some cool sounds but I agree that the full treble boost into a loud amp is where the magic is.
If I was going to do it again (and I probably will!) I'll look into mojo transistors and proper values and stuff, do a really nice one. Or just buy one because I'm lazy, eh.
You can buy a transistor from smallbear and that comes with the resistor values that will bias it perfectly. It's pretty expensive compared to buying in bulk and sorting but if you're just looking to build yourself one it makes it really easy and the end result sounds great if you don't screw it up.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:31 am
by Casavettes
Officer Bukowski wrote:Casavettes wrote:Helter wrote:I think you would really like a rangemaster clone.
hmm, is the sparkle motion considered a rangemaster clone?
I was going to say the same thing! (re: Rangemaster)
The Sparkle Motion is not a clone. I found it to be pretty different sounding from the clone that I made. It's a great pedal of course!
Casavettes if you want you can borrow my Rangemaster to see if you like it. It's not for sale but you can check it out
I really appreciate the offer! I might have to take you up on that
I'll shoot you a PM soon

Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:15 am
by Casavettes
i also tried the blunderbuss and tafm combo on my board last night
while i was already aware, i wanted to give it another shot but the blunderbuss gets too spitty for me when i roll back the volume on the guitar.
it does seem the tafm will be replacing my buss for now because it sounds amazing.
i ended up putting the mini back on my board, i kind of missed it. i still really want a crimson drive tho
this thread is full of awesome suggestions by the way

Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:25 am
by Butch1970
Casavettes wrote:i also tried the blunderbuss and tafm combo on my board last night
while i was already aware, i wanted to give it another shot but the blunderbuss gets too spitty for me when i roll back the volume on the guitar.
it does seem the tafm will be replacing my buss for now because it sounds amazing.
i ended up putting the mini back on my board, i kind of missed it. i still really want a crimson drive tho
this thread is full of awesome suggestions by the way

I think you're just gonna have to bite the bullet....scratch that itch.... and get a Crimson Drive
I was trying out multiple dirt pedals on my new board this past week (Pharoah and my EQD stuff) but am gonna run out of room unless I try to limit myself to 2 dirt pedals. For now, the Crimson Drive is staying on, and will be paired with either the Dream Crusher or Pharoah.
I've never tried a Mini Fuck, but the sound samples I've heard make me think it's a pedal that would work for me.
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:09 pm
by Officer Bukowski
Mmm
I'm pretty interested in the crimson drive. Especially after reading that its pretty trebly
Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:57 pm
by Casavettes
I get paid on Friday so I might pull the trigger...
Unless ya know, butch wants to do a trade for a mini?

Re: fuzz for overdrive
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:39 pm
by Gone Fission
I use a Duncan Tweak Fuzz (SS FF with selectable input cap) and a Zoom Ultra Fuzz for overdrive-ish textures quite a bit. I find the Zoom, which is known for self-oscillating extremity, has a lot of versatility and can do a lot of textures on the subtle end of things.
I've also got a Gore Pedals Beef Dynamic Drive, which is a Fuzz Face derivative that just cracks into fuzz when both dirt and volume knobs and the guitar volume are cranked. Otherwise, it's a touch sensitive boost-y with some grit and some great presence. It makes me think a lot of early post-punk stuff. One insane thing is that the pickup selector differences are more exaggerated with the pedal engaged than off.