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Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:31 pm
by amorphous
Holy Schnikes wrote:My girl surprised me with Dan Erlewine's book years ago at Xmas and I decided to dive right in. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to learn, great source of knowledge with tons maintenance and repair tips plus pics to help newbies along. My local luthier was also super helpful in helping me learn even tho it resulted in him losing most of my business. He still handles the big stuff tho so it's all good.
^This book! HIGHLY recommend it!
Schnikes, do you go to Skip?
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:01 am
by The4455
I do now, but the first time, I had my guitar set up, and one one of my basses too, but all of the other times, all me.
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:13 am
by Holy Schnikes
amorphous wrote:Holy Schnikes wrote:My girl surprised me with Dan Erlewine's book years ago at Xmas and I decided to dive right in. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to learn, great source of knowledge with tons maintenance and repair tips plus pics to help newbies along. My local luthier was also super helpful in helping me learn even tho it resulted in him losing most of my business. He still handles the big stuff tho so it's all good.
^This book! HIGHLY recommend it!
Schnikes, do you go to Skip?
Nah but I hear that guy is great. His turnaround time is kinda crazy now days tho.
I go to a guy named Keith who maintained the HUGE vintage collection that belonged to the owner of Guitar Exchange here in town. That owner guy has since passed away and his store is long gone but Keith opened up a shop real close to me and came highly recommended. He's excellent, no complaints, just a super talented and very nice guy all around. Oh, and his prices are incredibly fair.

Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:15 am
by pigmaker
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:27 am
by pigmaker
92% of ILFers do their own setups. We are an industrious people.
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:46 am
by Psyre
pigmaker wrote:92% of ILFers do their own setups. We are an industrious people.
We are poor people....straight pedge. No money for the finer things like properly playable guitars.

Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:34 pm
by Mike
Psyre wrote:pigmaker wrote:92% of ILFers do their own setups. We are an industrious people.
We are poor people....straight pedge. No money for the finer things like properly playable guitars.

Heh. I think it has more to do with being thrifty or cheap than being poor. I could easily afford to pay someone to work on my guitars, but choose to set them up myself.
Doing a setup does not require magic, and does not require much investment in tools. It does require trust. Either you trust yourself to follow directions and not do more harm than good, or you must trust someone else to do it for you. I'd rather trust myself for free than pay to trust someone else.
I am of the opinion that anyone capable of playing a guitar is capable of setting up a guitar. If someone can't turn an Allen wrench or a screwdriver, or use a ruler, what are the chances that person has the coordination needed to play anything even remotely musical?
Mike
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:42 pm
by the Life Aquatic
yea, so im that asshole that marked off that I dont do my own setups, my computer glitched and the internet scrolled down but didnt show on the browser, I clicked and then submitted to realize I picked the wrong one

My bad, add one person to the "does your own set up"

Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:02 pm
by amorphous
the Life Aquatic wrote:yea, so im that asshole that marked off that I dont do my own setups, my computer glitched and the internet scrolled down but didnt show on the browser, I clicked and then submitted to realize I picked the wrong one

My bad, add one person to the "does your own set up"

you owe someone a free setup now!
that or you have to impart knowledge onto someone who DOESN'T do set ups!

Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:50 pm
by IEatCats
Ancient Astronaught wrote:hahahaha not that I'm aware of but seeing as its physically impossible to see your own buttocks without the aid of a mirror (
which i've never felt the need to do...) it's possible.

The idea that you have never once looked at your own butt in the mirror is the most shocking thing I've read today.
And I do my own setups. My first somewhat legitimate guitar was a Fender Stratacoustic, so I got used to playing with heavy strings on a high action that I couldn't adjust. My guitars are all set up similar to that now, but tweaked to not have dead spots, and have decent intonation. Most people I know HATE playing my guitars, but fuck them, I make broken sound good. It's my thing, haha.
I'd never want to go to a shop for it, because i know they'd lower the actions, fuck with the neck, and do a bunch more shit that I just don't want done to my strat by someone else.
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:29 pm
by myrrh
Well I can do the intonation bit, but the rest I trust in others to do.
Like I realised when getting a new jazzmaster, how poorly set up my old one was. Angle over bridge etc. Probably need to shim the neck to get the action lower while keeping the angle over the bridge.
Anyone familiar with this?
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:41 pm
by amorphous
myrrh wrote:
Anyone familiar with this?
yep....fiddling w. mine right now, just went to 12's so it needed some tweeking. Shim is not a bad place to start. What issue are you having? Have you searched over at the offset guitar forum on setups?
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:48 pm
by myrrh
Well the strings are too high in the upper part of the neck. And the bridge is too low if the action is ok, causing my bright E to unwound from hitting that screw on the whammy bar system.
So I basically want lower action, and more angle going into the bridge from the whammy.
Sorry If i am not making myself understood...
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:04 pm
by amorphous
sure, gotcha - that ball end unwinding thing won't happen - either shave the screw (or flip it, there's a mod for that over at offsetguitars.com) - or do as i do, tin the strings when replacing.
so, how's relief? put a capo on the 1st fret and hold it down at the 17th - measure the distance between the string and the fret at the 9th fret. Make it flat, start with one shim....and adjust a bit. Might take a day or so for the neck to react, so be patient.
Re: Do you do your own setups?
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:56 pm
by ryan summit
just ordered a mighty mite roller saddle
and a graph tek tusq nut
ima start over
any tips on what to look for as far as truss rod goes
right now im level
and i get buzz
but i think i filed the nut to low
hence the new one
should there be a slight bow either way
or as level as possible
any other tips apprectiated
im not buyin them cobalts again
until my probs are solved