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Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:33 am
by mathias
Since this seems have become a food thread: I'm not all that stuck on the vegetarian thing. I don't care what other people eat. But I don't eat processed food anymore, and almost all the fake "meats" are highly processed. We just eat a ton of vegetables, fruits, and stuff like rice. Occasionally bread, but often not.

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:41 am
by Chankgeez
mathias wrote:Since this seems have become a food thread: I'm not all that stuck on the vegetarian thing. I don't care what other people eat. But I don't eat processed food anymore, and almost all the fake "meats" are highly processed. We just eat a ton of vegetables, fruits, and stuff like rice. Occasionally bread, but often not.


What do you get your protein from?

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:53 am
by foomanfat
My PT-Pro is divided into two sections with the volume pedal in the center. I try to run bottom right to left, the to top right to left. Then into the volume pedal, with the left side run the same way.
I also use the tuner out on my EB volume, but I had it modded to fix the impedance split that happens stock.

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:55 am
by kbit
Dub and goroth's posts were both super helpful. Thanks for sharing guys :hug:

PumpkinPieces wrote:I put phasers before fuzz. I like the unstable texture it creates as opposed to the swooshiness of after fuzz phasing.


Also, hell yes.

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:56 am
by ChetMagongalo
I've found myself just doing whatever works. I don't have a Pedal Train board but I always have to change stuff around even when I add one pedal. I don't bother to make my cables look pretty since I move stuff around so much. my current layout is in my signature. It works great but if you look closely there's a ton of messy spots to make stuff work, but IT WORKS. which I feel is the most important thing, so mission accomplished.
one thing i've done in the past to counteract the fact that inputs are always on the right of the pedals and outputs on the left, is run a cable under my board connecting the output of the bottom row to the input of the top row. some people will say that makes your signal run farther which isn't good for your tone, but honestly I don't care enough
EDIT: Having pedal connectors with flat right angle on the end makes a HUGE difference for me, I couldn't make my current board work without them

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:21 am
by dubkitty
ChetMagongalo wrote:one thing i've done in the past to counteract the fact that inputs are always on the right of the pedals and outputs on the left, is run a cable under my board connecting the output of the bottom row to the input of the top row.


yes. i've occasionally been able to run the signal from corner to corner by having boxes connected to each other in the center tier, but not with my current setup.

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:25 am
by ChetMagongalo
doing that makes it a no brainer to hook up stuff! I'll probably do it again when I add more pedals.
The set up I have now is mostly my experimenting with order rather then placement and convenience

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:47 am
by dubkitty
that's why i'm really liking the idea of having the boxes with top jacks arranged across the upper tier...i want to experiment with different placements of the filter/modulation/reverb, and already have a set of color-coded 1-foot patch cables i can use. this will allow me to move cables rather than boxes, since all the jacks will be on the upper outside edge of the board and i can cable them however i wish. i've seriously considered bolting a rackmount patch bay to the board so i can route everything in/out, but i think it's probably impractical for live usage though it could be an Eno miracle treatment in the studio and a synth-style patch bay on a pedalboard would look cool as fuck.

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:21 pm
by CBA
I'm quite interested myself in phaser placement lately. I've rarely had phasers to play with, and when I did, they were MXRs, which I found I just don't like. Where it's at for me is the Small Stone V4... probably the best phaser ever. But yeah, it was like, well, you put it AFTER FUZZ, obviously, for the swoosh. But lately, mostly 'cuz of Tame Impala, I've been finding a lot of excellent sounds putting the phaser before fuzz. I like a phaser swoosh, but before fuzz lets the fuzz shine instead of the phaser... like it's a whole new fuzz pedal with a lot of the characteristics you love about it unphased, but with a lot of weird, crackly texture.

Gotta fuck around with that and reverb a little more. I've never owned a reverb pedal, but I just got a mini-RRR.


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Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:32 pm
by Casavettes
lately ive been leaning towards putting my phaser before fuzz
i have the sibling phaser now and while the swoosh is awesome after fuzz, it can sound thin on slower settings. putting it before fuzz fixes that.

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:01 pm
by zRobertez
Casavettes wrote:lately ive been leaning towards putting my phaser before fuzz
i have the sibling phaser now and while the swoosh is awesome after fuzz, it can sound thin on slower settings. putting it before fuzz fixes that.

Or sound like your going through a wormhole! Unless it's a real subtle phaser, I find pre fuzz phaser much more useable. But I like all mod pre dirt

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:08 pm
by John
zRobertez wrote:
Casavettes wrote:lately ive been leaning towards putting my phaser before fuzz
i have the sibling phaser now and while the swoosh is awesome after fuzz, it can sound thin on slower settings. putting it before fuzz fixes that.

Or sound like your going through a wormhole! Unless it's a real subtle phaser, I find pre fuzz phaser much more useable. But I like all mod pre dirt

I haven't been here very long, but I think I got the hang of this so here goes: FUZZ BEFORE + FUZZ AFTER + FUZZ ALL AROUND --- FUZZ TACO IN A FUZZ BURRITO

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:13 pm
by mathias
This thread was hugely helpful in getting to where I'm at with my pedal placement on my giganto board and pedal chain order.

:thumb:

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:45 pm
by dubkitty
i've found that i prefer phaser before fuzz, despite the fact that i prefer chorus and flanging after fuzz. phasing can be un-subtle, and fuzz compresses and gives a crude EQ to the phaser sound.

Re: A couple random questions about pedal placement

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:18 pm
by mathias
dubkitty wrote:i've found that i prefer phaser before fuzz, despite the fact that i prefer chorus and flanging after fuzz. phasing can be un-subtle, and fuzz compresses and gives a crude EQ to the phaser sound.


That said, I really like the sound of the swoosh on top of my sound with phaser after -- so that's where I have my Grand Orbiter right now. I have it set to be rather subtle though, where the Malekko Phaser isn't really subtle but does sound great.