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Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:07 pm
by Jenesis
Could be down for the univibe.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:39 pm
by betacloud
the graphics are pretty weak, i just hope that Jimi's estate get a piece of the pie.
god knows he's been raped financially more than any other artist on the planet.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:03 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
betacloud wrote:the graphics are pretty weak, i just hope that Jimi's estate get a piece of the pie.
Why?
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:49 pm
by betacloud
monkeydancer wrote:betacloud wrote:the graphics are pretty weak, i just hope that Jimi's estate get a piece of the pie.
Why?
to my knowledge;
his management fed him piles of powder and booze, then put a pen and paper in his hand. he signed.
they then released several horrible albums after his death. eddie kramer had no say on the mixes and his family got nothing.
there were these horrible albums where he did 'itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini' type horribleness...
his father sued, and after years of deliberation, finally won and re-released his entire catalog. with style and the way jimi would have wanted it.
then his sister was in charge of his estate. more greed ensued.
from wikipedia-
"When Al Hendrix died of congestive heart failure in 2002, his will stipulated that Experience Hendrix, LLC was to exist as a trust designed to distribute profits to a list of Hendrix family beneficiaries. Upon his death, it was revealed that Al had signed a revision to his will which removed Hendrix's brother Leon Hendrix as a beneficiary. A 2004 probate lawsuit merged Leon's challenge to the will with charges from other Hendrix family beneficiaries that Janie Hendrix, Al's adopted daughter, was improperly handling the company finances. The suit argued that Janie and a cousin of Jimi Hendrix (Robert Hendrix) paid themselves exorbitant salaries and covered their own mortgages and personal expenses from the company's coffers while the beneficiaries went without payment and the Hendrix gravesite in Renton went uncompleted.
Janie and Robert's defense was that the company was not profitable yet, and that their salary and benefits were justified given the work that they put into running the company. Leon charged that Janie bilked Al Hendrix, then old and frail, into signing the revised will, and sought to have the previous will reinstated.[219] The defense argued that Al willingly removed Leon from his will because of Leon's problems with alcohol and gambling. In early 2005, presiding judge Jeffrey Ramsdell handed down a ruling that left the final will intact, but replaced Janie and Robert's role at the financial helm of Experience Hendrix with an independent trustee.
On October 5, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments in a case Golan v. Holder concerning the 1994 U.S. federal law that protected foreign copyrights. At stake in the outcome of this case is whether previously unprotected foreign works could be suddenly copyrighted and withdrawn from public domain. In a hypothetical argument Justice John Roberts asked "what about Jimi Hendrix?" and if Hendrix's rendition of the "Star Spangled Banner" at Woodstock violated copyright protection or was protected under public domain. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, who defended the 1994 law, stated "maybe Jimi Hendrix could claim fair use".[220] The music of the "Star Spangled Banner" was composed by an English musician, John Stafford Smith in the mid 1760s. The lyrics of the "Star Spangled Banner" were written by American Francis Scott Key in 1814 and the song became America's National anthem in 1931.[221]"
more from wiki-
"The Jimi Hendrix Foundation
In 1987, Leon Hendrix commissioned the James (Jimi) Marshall Hendrix Foundation. This foundation is based in Renton, Washington. Though run for some time by Jimi's brother Leon Hendrix, in August 2006 Leon asked a childhood friend of Jimi Hendrix – James (Jimmy) Williams, to take control of the Foundation.[222]"
so why you ask?
jimi was a personal hero to me; his music literally saved my life in bad times.
i connect with him that we were both soldiers in the 101st Airborne Division, had lost our mothers at a young age, and love music to the point of finding it to be a source of spiritual healing.
jimi didn't respect money much. nor do i.
sorry for the pontification, but that's IMO and i've had a bit of brandy.
and i'm gonna wave my freak flag high!!!
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:06 pm
by nad
Dunlop stuff varies from okay to pretty good. I generally support small builders/companies/luthiers first and foremost, but I give $$$ to Dunlop without feeling too weird. Them and Mesa/Boogie I'm cool with really. CALIFORNIA BROS maybe, I dunno.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:39 pm
by Gearmond
meh. the normal octavio housing is cool as shit. this is a step backwards
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:37 am
by coldbrightsunlight
betacloud wrote:monkeydancer wrote:betacloud wrote:the graphics are pretty weak, i just hope that Jimi's estate get a piece of the pie.
Why?
to my knowledge;
his management fed him piles of powder and booze, then put a pen and paper in his hand. he signed.
they then released several horrible albums after his death. eddie kramer had no say on the mixes and his family got nothing.
there were these horrible albums where he did 'itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini' type horribleness...
his father sued, and after years of deliberation, finally won and re-released his entire catalog. with style and the way jimi would have wanted it.
then his sister was in charge of his estate. more greed ensued.
from wikipedia-
"When Al Hendrix died of congestive heart failure in 2002, his will stipulated that Experience Hendrix, LLC was to exist as a trust designed to distribute profits to a list of Hendrix family beneficiaries. Upon his death, it was revealed that Al had signed a revision to his will which removed Hendrix's brother Leon Hendrix as a beneficiary. A 2004 probate lawsuit merged Leon's challenge to the will with charges from other Hendrix family beneficiaries that Janie Hendrix, Al's adopted daughter, was improperly handling the company finances. The suit argued that Janie and a cousin of Jimi Hendrix (Robert Hendrix) paid themselves exorbitant salaries and covered their own mortgages and personal expenses from the company's coffers while the beneficiaries went without payment and the Hendrix gravesite in Renton went uncompleted.
Janie and Robert's defense was that the company was not profitable yet, and that their salary and benefits were justified given the work that they put into running the company. Leon charged that Janie bilked Al Hendrix, then old and frail, into signing the revised will, and sought to have the previous will reinstated.[219] The defense argued that Al willingly removed Leon from his will because of Leon's problems with alcohol and gambling. In early 2005, presiding judge Jeffrey Ramsdell handed down a ruling that left the final will intact, but replaced Janie and Robert's role at the financial helm of Experience Hendrix with an independent trustee.
On October 5, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments in a case Golan v. Holder concerning the 1994 U.S. federal law that protected foreign copyrights. At stake in the outcome of this case is whether previously unprotected foreign works could be suddenly copyrighted and withdrawn from public domain. In a hypothetical argument Justice John Roberts asked "what about Jimi Hendrix?" and if Hendrix's rendition of the "Star Spangled Banner" at Woodstock violated copyright protection or was protected under public domain. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, who defended the 1994 law, stated "maybe Jimi Hendrix could claim fair use".[220] The music of the "Star Spangled Banner" was composed by an English musician, John Stafford Smith in the mid 1760s. The lyrics of the "Star Spangled Banner" were written by American Francis Scott Key in 1814 and the song became America's National anthem in 1931.[221]"
more from wiki-
"The Jimi Hendrix Foundation
In 1987, Leon Hendrix commissioned the James (Jimi) Marshall Hendrix Foundation. This foundation is based in Renton, Washington. Though run for some time by Jimi's brother Leon Hendrix, in August 2006 Leon asked a childhood friend of Jimi Hendrix – James (Jimmy) Williams, to take control of the Foundation.[222]"
so why you ask?
jimi was a personal hero to me; his music literally saved my life in bad times.
i connect with him that we were both soldiers in the 101st Airborne Division, had lost our mothers at a young age, and love music to the point of finding it to be a source of spiritual healing.
jimi didn't respect money much. nor do i.
sorry for the pontification, but that's IMO and i've had a bit of brandy.
and i'm gonna wave my freak flag high!!!
Cool post! And I totally respect Hendrix as a musician, but don't see why his family/whoever is in control now should get anything. He made those records, they didn't, and it kind of sounds like a lot of them have handled it greedily.

Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:12 am
by StormJH1
The family stuff (much of which I didn't know) is sad, but none of that stuff really influences what I think of a piece of equipment. I actually think the pedals are cool looking, and I am a big Hendrix fan (who isn't). But Dunlop/MXR throws a Hendrix face on a stompbox and copies some of his vintage tones/effects and it's "cheesy/commercial," yet Catalinbread makes pedals modeled after famous guitarists and the tone they had at a particular concert, and that's "cool". I don't get it. Therefore, I guess I'm not "offended" by throwing a particular guitarist's face on a pedal because so many people are just trying to cop a particular guitarist's tone anyway - this would just seem like the next logical step in that progression.
Anyway, I looked at these because I need a Fuzz and there aren't a ton of them in this compact of a form factor, but $129 is a bit much for a glorified MXR. I understand it's a limited run and there's a collector "vibe" to it, but the "collectability" is supposed to come from the inherent quality and rareness of the product, not from subsidizing it up front with a higher price. For someone looking to acquire just a good-sounding fuzz, Electro-Harmonix makes great stuff under $100.
Cool, but i can't justify that.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:53 pm
by betacloud
sorry if i came off militant guys, i just feel that if someone's making money at a corporate level, the party, (in this case the departed's family), should be compensated.
all the smaller companies and diy makers deserve to have some fun with their graphics, but dunlop is big money.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:50 pm
by snipelfritz
I've never liked any kind of "artist signature" gear. You're not going to sound like them, so quit trying to. Jimi didn't use Jimi pedals, and he sounded more like Jimi than anybody.
ANYBODY
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:55 pm
by betacloud
snipelfritz wrote:I've never liked any kind of "artist signature" gear. You're not going to sound like them, so quit trying to. Jimi didn't use Jimi pedals, and he sounded more like Jimi than anybody.
ANYBODY
well put.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:04 pm
by mathias
Still, true Univibe clones are hard to find in that price range, but I don't really think I'd like how it looks on my board..
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:34 pm
by Andrew
Of cause they're using a name to sell products. I'm still surprised that MXR hasn't made a verb pedal yet.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:14 am
by dubkitty
betacloud wrote:snipelfritz wrote:I've never liked any kind of "artist signature" gear. You're not going to sound like them, so quit trying to. Jimi didn't use Jimi pedals, and he sounded more like Jimi than anybody.
ANYBODY
well put.
i would probably never buy something just because it was a signature pedal, unless it was a Neil Halstead signature phaser + flanger. however, i'd buy a piece of signature gear if it made the sounds i liked even if i don't care about the artist. e.g. i'm interested in the Jerry Cantrell wah not because it's made for the AIC sound but because it's voiced lower than most wahs, which fits what i do. my lack of thrill over the new Dunlop/Hendrix stuff is that i don't really use those sounds.
Re: Dunlop makes 3 rad pedals - wtf?
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:21 am
by 01010111
mathias wrote:Still, true Univibe clones are hard to find in that price range, but I don't really think I'd like how it looks on my board..
But it would look so similar to your avatar....