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Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:22 am
by The Mad Owl
greigoroth wrote:
the_carl wrote:Why do people not put tuners at the end? Then you can use them as a whole-board mute.

First in the chain means you don't have to turn off 6 pedals to get a clean sound to tune with. If that's not an issue then yes, the end of the chain is cool for the muting thing.


I'm going to use my tuner directly in front of my feedback loop to induce volume drops to get the feedback working weirdly.

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:59 am
by The Mad Owl
nevermind... it didn't do anything cool.

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:12 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
i heard that putting the tuner in your feedback loop is best for doom

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:28 pm
by dubkitty
does it make your guitar go EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:43 pm
by The Mad Owl
when my feedback loop is activated, my volume knob acts the same way as with any oscillating fuzz... so I thought maybe a sudden drop in signal (instead of abusing my volume knob) would have yielded some interesting results. I placed the tuner just before the feedback loop as a killswitch for the volume going into the loop...

that did not happen at all.

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:54 pm
by dubkitty
in simple terms, the oscillation is a property of the variation of the signal along the range of the knob travel. when you get to the end of the range where there's no signal, you've got nothing. when you kick in the tuner, you're cutting directly to the end of the range with no response. now, if there was a way to toggle between 100% volume and 40%...

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:48 pm
by Schlatte
dubkitty wrote:now, if there was a way to toggle between 100% volume and 40%...


Image

:lol:

My Arrangement: Envelope Follower > Fuzz > FB-Loop and Pitch Shifter > Phaser > Dirt > Wah > Dirt > Filter > Dirt > Delay > EQ
My new Arrangement when I get all my pedals in:
Envelope Follower > Fuzz > Distortion > FB-Loop with Pitch Shifter and Delay > Dirt > Wah > Dirt > Filter > Dirt > Delay > Reverb > EQ

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:41 pm
by The Mad Owl
dubkitty wrote:in simple terms, the oscillation is a property of the variation of the signal along the range of the knob travel. when you get to the end of the range where there's no signal, you've got nothing. when you kick in the tuner, you're cutting directly to the end of the range with no response. now, if there was a way to toggle between 100% volume and 40%...


thanks for the explanation! man... it sucked putting in all of this work with nothing to show for it but this face :picard:

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:50 pm
by dubkitty
yeah, i hate it when i spend ages re-arranging my board and it turns out i have to put everything back the way it was. i need an UNDO keystroke combination for my life :whateva:

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:53 pm
by Ghost Hip
I generally order my board from quietest->loudest first, then switch around from there. This makes for the least amount of unexpected volume drops. Other than that, things like delay before or after fuzz, or OD before or after fuzz... is just what I feel like at the time.

Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:When I started getting more into pedals, I would just plug stuff in different orders and try it out, then try to remember what I thought made cool sounds and what didn't. I kinda formed a lot of opinions thru experimentation basically. Then many moons later, I was reading some stuff on the internet on the traditionally accepted way of signal flows and stuff for fx/pedal chains....lol everything I was doing was ass backwards to what they were saying. I closed out that website and never looked back.

fuckin professionals.....

:lol:

Yeah, there are so many different pedals that do the "same thing". I mean we call a lot of pedals "fuzz" so we assume we can fit them into the same spots and categories, but all fuzzes do "fuzz" differently. You can't create general rules for certain types of effects and have it work to your preference every single time. Then add into the equation that sometimes I turn on my pedalboard which sounded great yesterday but isn't at all what I want today... you can throw away all that bullshit about what goes where.

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:05 pm
by The Mad Owl
dubkitty wrote:yeah, i hate it when i spend ages re-arranging my board and it turns out i have to put everything back the way it was. i need an UNDO keystroke combination for my life :whateva:


:)

well, as it turns out, I have figured a solution to the issue. I have a boost pedal that not unity at full counter-clockwise, and if I set it to 7-8 o'clock, I get the EXACT results I wanted. Just not sure if it's really worth the hassle. Well, we'll see :)

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:24 pm
by hbombgraphics
MEC wrote:Tuner>Fuzz>Fuzz>Fuzz>Reverb

not sure about the tuner


I try to put bender style fuzz first
then filters
a buffer then pitch
fuzz
1 verb
overdrive
distortion
modulation
verb delay
loopers


this is just me currently

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:36 pm
by kbit
I generally enjoy the results of modulation before fuzz.

The incoming signal of the fuzz being shifted generally changes the character of the fuzz itself rather than adding another layer on top of the fuzz if it were after it in the signal chain. This generally works best with fuzzes that glitch, stutter, or what have you.

& depending on the pedals, delay before fuzz can also sound amazing. Having a verb/delay both before and after dirt is almost always desirable to me.

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:49 pm
by hbombgraphics
Verb dirt verb is so good

everyone needs to run modulated verb into a rat style pedal right now and then into more verb

It will rip your pants off

Re: Preferred Pedalboard Arrangement...

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:05 am
by WeHuntKings
hbombgraphics wrote:Verb dirt verb is so good

everyone needs to run modulated verb into a rat style pedal right now and then into more verb

It will rip your pants off


fuuuuck that sounds like an amazing idea. gas'n fer a rat again now...

but yeah verb/delay, dirt, verb/delay is all i need.