sonidero wrote:Why is the Boomerang so great??? I am askin for realzzz, someone tell me what it does that is sooo rad... I think it's ugly and huge and made in a stupid city... Why is there no 2880 love on ILF???
The new one is tiny compared to the old one, I don't see how its ugly (I guess its not a looker), and sorry you base you opinion of a pedal just on the city its built in. I think the Boomerang III is great because its 1. User friendly to start with, which I can't say about the 2880 the one time I tried it out, and 2. It has a ton of functions. Not only that, the builder is constantly working on ways to expand the functionality of the pedal. He's working on support for midi clocking or whatever its called, and also released an add on pedal that literally puts every function out for you. Yes, it makes it twice as wide, but if someone does heavy looping, it makes the Boomerang all the more useful.
Achtane wrote:ILF: Instead of reducing the dimensions of the board, just fill it up with pedals until it looks right.
sonidero wrote:Why is the Boomerang so great??? I am askin for realzzz, someone tell me what it does that is sooo rad... I think it's ugly and huge and made in a stupid city... Why is there no 2880 love on ILF???
Thanks but was not really what I was asking... Why is everyone so hard for a $470 looper??? What are you using it for that couldn't be done with something else??? I am serious not just being a dick... And Grapevine is shit...
sonidero wrote:Thanks but was not really what I was asking... Why is everyone so hard for a $470 looper??? What are you using it for that couldn't be done with something else??? I am serious not just being a dick... And Grapevine is shit...
Hey, that's just down the road from me. Huh, didn't realize they were over there.
It gets a lot of praise because it's really, really good. Mike Nelson is also a lovely guy. Up there with the Echoplex as the best in its field.
It does a lot the 2880 can't do. but the reverse is true too. It costs a lot because it's more or less unparalleled for size, feature set and functionality. People are "hard" for it because it's very good.
I use it for stacking different loops, bringing them in and out. I use its sync feature to keep everything locked into perfect time, so I can get a little more complex compositionally.
I like it a lot.
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sonidero wrote:Why is the Boomerang so great??? I am askin for realzzz, someone tell me what it does that is sooo rad... I think it's ugly and huge and made in a stupid city... Why is there no 2880 love on ILF???
Made in a stupid city?
Yeah I put that in there for giggles and that's what y'all wanna focus on??? What do you do with yours Hwould???
Yea, Austin is pretty cool. Minus the hipster pollution and college kids. Which is the bulk of it, but I'm not gonna stereotype it as a whole.
I use it to loop. Keep multiple loops going, stack loops with different parts. Do one shot sampler type of stuff. Reverse up octave stuff, create drones etc. If you read the manual you'll see it's super intuitive.
I needed to get my unit updated and the owner had me come over and he did it for me. He's a super cool guy who really cares about putting out the best product he can. His two man operation is top notch (him and his wife), with some of the best service around.
hazelwould wrote:I use it to loop. Keep multiple loops going, stack loops with different parts. Do one shot sampler type of stuff. Reverse up octave stuff, create drones etc. If you read the manual you'll see it's super intuitive.
Austin's pretty lame most of the time...
That's what I wanted to hear... I don't care about functions... I care about loops... Starting a new thread...
If I had pilez and pilez of cash and the necessity for a flawless looper, I'd get the Boomerang. I guess I'm talking about just having one to sit in my basement and make a bunch of infinite noise with or to write solos over... thus I don't really need anything that can store loops or do multiple loops... or that's at least what I've found thanks to this thread.
The SMMH is probably what I'm going to get... simple enough with a few extra delay noises. Otherwise the Jamman Solo sounds pretty easy.
Yea SMMH is badass. You can loop in any mode when you want. It has this ability to delay only so many repeats but with NO volume loss. My biggest issue with the SMMH is it's hard getting the volumes right. I hate blends where you want more delay and it cuts the volume to give you the delayed signal. A blend should just keep your clean intact and allow more delay into it. Simple stuff.
But yea, I'm trying the MUZA FD900 but I'll probably end up with a SMMH at some point pretty soon. Just waiting on a good deal. I've purchased two in the past for $100 a pop. Now the prices have gone up a bit.
We use a SMMH and a Drasp DL4 in my band and dig em both. I really like the filter on the SMMH (and some of the delays too for that matter.) Aslo, having the loop speed on a pot on the SMMH has yielded some interesting moments in our music. My bandmate frequently ends our sets by slowly cranking his loop speed all the way down. Gives a great unplugged-turntable kind of effect. Crowd seems to dig it. The DL4 is great too, but you already know the dets with that one too it seems.
CBA wrote:The SMMH is probably what I'm going to get... simple enough with a few extra delay noises. Otherwise the Jamman Solo sounds pretty easy.
One thing about the SMMH is that setting up a loop is different compared to just about every other looper. Usually its click to start recording, click to stop recording and start playing. With the SMMH, you hold down the tap tempo button to record your passage, and then let go when you want to stop recording. Takes some practice (as with all loopers), but just something to keep in mind. I'd say try one out before you get one, but I don't know how many shops carry them now that they aren't the newest thing.
Achtane wrote:ILF: Instead of reducing the dimensions of the board, just fill it up with pedals until it looks right.
CBA wrote:The SMMH is probably what I'm going to get... simple enough with a few extra delay noises. Otherwise the Jamman Solo sounds pretty easy.
One thing about the SMMH is that setting up a loop is different compared to just about every other looper. Usually its click to start recording, click to stop recording and start playing. With the SMMH, you hold down the tap tempo button to record your passage, and then let go when you want to stop recording. Takes some practice (as with all loopers), but just something to keep in mind. I'd say try one out before you get one, but I don't know how many shops carry them now that they aren't the newest thing.
I watched that Dustin Wangbar video when I was courting the Foxrox Octron... oh so happy I got one!
I don't know why, but I feel like I'd really dig the "hold to record" function of the SMMH. The DL-4 was just tap and play, but frequently I would want to add little bonks and squeaks, and it seems like the SMMH would be great for that. I don't plan on using the damn thing for like solo performance super-looping stuff, so the SMMH is probably exactly what I need for just drunken layered loops.
Otherwise I see that Cloudscapes has devised a way to fix the "hold to record" option on the SMMH, though I don't really understand how it works!
Ha. I do post the DWong vid kind of a lot.... Love that guy. The SMMH also does this really nice kinda layer suppression thing where the more times you record over something it fades the older layers back. Handy when parts are too loud and also keeps things from getting too dense.