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Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:18 pm
by D.o.S.
wsas3 wrote:Fuzz always has to be after dirt for me, there's no exception for me. if its the other way around, it just sounds like a worse version of the dirt pedal.

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:46 pm
by WeHuntKings
It all depends on the tone controls of said OD after fuzz. If it has the muff style tone control (the singular tone knob that cuts highs/boosts bass depending on which way you turn it) it usually doesn't do any favors for the fuzz. However, if you have a pedal like The Black Forest with more varied tone shaping options (seperate tone controls for treble and bass) more of the fuzz's character will come through and not get eaten by the overdrive's tone controls.

I could be wrong, but thats how my pedalboard seems to work.

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:15 am
by metalmariachi
I usually prefer od after fuzz but I have to agree it really depends on the od pedal.

My Owens Gremlin has mid range filters so can sculpt the sound of almost any fuzz I’ve put in front of it.
Pedals like the Jacques Tube Blower, Barber’s Burn Unit, or MI Audio’s Blue Boy have tone circuits which work well with fuzz in front.

MM

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:09 am
by The Mad Owl
i was always a fuzz after od kind of guy until i started to want to use my fuzz for more practical uses (rather than the usual synthy squishy tones i got after slamming them with od's)

i have my most trebly fuzz first, then my noisiest, then my more versatile BEFORE my distortion, THEN my od...

my od is a barber ltd special recipe, so it's pretty uncolored to begin with, so i never feel weird about slamming it with fuzz

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:20 am
by GardenoftheDead
I don't really like overdrives that much. I don't mind a boost after the fuzz (especially since my Swollen Pickle sounds better with preamp overdrive, but the Fuzz Factory kind of needs a clean amp to sound good).

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:46 pm
by futuresailors
Wellp, fuck. There's magic in the water in Canada or something, because the Elements on low gain makes all mah annoying poppy noises come true. EQ'd it to get dem Rat treblz, and it makes stuff sound better.


The Mad Owl wrote:i was always a fuzz after od kind of guy until i started to want to use my fuzz for more practical uses (rather than the usual synthy squishy tones i got after slamming them with od's)

i have my most trebly fuzz first, then my noisiest, then my more versatile BEFORE my distortion, THEN my od...

my od is a barber ltd special recipe, so it's pretty uncolored to begin with, so i never feel weird about slamming it with fuzz


Interesting... trebley and then noisy and then normal? :idea: Reorganization project number 2!

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:07 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
My custom BAT is fuzz > OD (LSTR > OCD) I've had both OD into fuzz and fuzz in OD, i found that for me OD after fuzz worked better. The LSTR set with tone controls at zero and gain at max has a huge sound to it, but with no highs at all. Kicking on the OCD after it keeps the original LSTR tone but adds cutting mids and highs to it without stomping on it. The OCD without the lstr side on is kinda thin but cutting, so its nice being able to add depth and gobs of low end on demand. I think its like other people have stated that it all depends on the pedals your using and how your using them, so yeah YMMV.

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:18 pm
by CBGB
I do both:

Singing Tree -- Wolf Computer -- Fuck Overdrive -- Arc Flash Oscillator

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:44 pm
by Jero
Bassboar wrote:Really? My Behemoth makes everything I run into it sound better.

Agree 100%, but its kind of a preamp/od so it makes sense

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:51 pm
by ALLisNOISE
Rat into Black Forest is the sound of SUNN O)))
Seriously, I've been jamming on this combo all afternoon into this:
triple amp.jpg

a doom trifecta!


note: the High School Musical microphone that my 4 year old uses to sing when we "jam" :lol:

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:26 pm
by Gone Fission
ALLisNOISE wrote:Rat into Black Forest is the sound of SUNN O)))
Seriously, I've been jamming on this combo all afternoon into this:
triple amp.jpg

a doom trifecta!


note: the High School Musical microphone that my 4 year old uses to sing when we "jam" :lol:


Is the Peavey in the rack the Kosmos? How are you running it?

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:41 pm
by Chankgeez
ALLisNOISE wrote:note: the High School Musical microphone that my 4 year old uses to sing when we "jam" :lol:


Don't lie! :!!!: We all know that's yours! :D

Re: OD after fuzz.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:03 pm
by ALLisNOISE
Gone Fission wrote:
Is the Peavey in the rack the Kosmos? How are you running it?


It is! I run it through the effects loop of the Concert Lead. The extra bottom end really pushes that Music Man 118RH :yay:
It's also a killer attenuator for when i want to run the Sunn wide open on the Distort channel.
I'm sure most of you know that there's like a 20db difference between the two channels.


As for the mic...I've been known to drag it across the strings in fits of noise induced madness! :!!!: