Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:10 am
I used to gig with a gk1001 and a yorkville 210 and kept up with loud guitars and a hard hittin drummer. Played tonnes o fuzz too and still obliterated the mix....
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Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:33 am
Hey, I only use 4 speakers too.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:09 am
Fuzz_Pi wrote:D.o.S. wrote:warwick.hoy wrote:Also to touch on the Tube vs SS with fuzz,....
There was a fella who shall remain nameless that was militantly adamant about only using Tube amps with Fuzz/Disto/Overdrive (talking with bass guitar here),...to the point of flamage of those that disagreed with him. That fella's mindset caused a lot defensiveness from Fuzz>SS user,....but I like that I'm not seeing any I'm right you are wrong and you dumb for being wrong in this discussion,....so big kudos fellas.
While I think there is some merit to what he who shall remain nameless says about Fuzz into Tube amps,....I think the issue is more a guitar issue then a bass issue. I also think that he who shall remain nameless is a little too set in his ways and I'm not convinced that his particular tone is all that great, well it's a decent tone for dad rock, but that's about it.
Again I'm perfectly happy with my fuzz sound into my SS rig,...but I think the amount of power my rig pumps contributes to that satisfaction, and I definitely want to have a go with a Tube amp just to compare and contrast.
His Psychedelic Jamz also left a lot to be desired, if I'm on the same wavelength as you are.
I'M MARK OLSON FUCK BOTH OF YOU
Oh shit.
Well this is embarrassing but I'm unapologetic as rereading my post,...I don't think I said anything that warranted a cuss out.
Just saying.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:11 am
warwick.hoy wrote:Fuzz_Pi wrote:D.o.S. wrote:warwick.hoy wrote:Also to touch on the Tube vs SS with fuzz,....
There was a fella who shall remain nameless that was militantly adamant about only using Tube amps with Fuzz/Disto/Overdrive (talking with bass guitar here),...to the point of flamage of those that disagreed with him. That fella's mindset caused a lot defensiveness from Fuzz>SS user,....but I like that I'm not seeing any I'm right you are wrong and you dumb for being wrong in this discussion,....so big kudos fellas.
While I think there is some merit to what he who shall remain nameless says about Fuzz into Tube amps,....I think the issue is more a guitar issue then a bass issue. I also think that he who shall remain nameless is a little too set in his ways and I'm not convinced that his particular tone is all that great, well it's a decent tone for dad rock, but that's about it.
Again I'm perfectly happy with my fuzz sound into my SS rig,...but I think the amount of power my rig pumps contributes to that satisfaction, and I definitely want to have a go with a Tube amp just to compare and contrast.
His Psychedelic Jamz also left a lot to be desired, if I'm on the same wavelength as you are.
I'M MARK OLSON FUCK BOTH OF YOU
Oh shit.
Well this is embarrassing but I'm unapologetic,...
Can't blame you. Im kind of a twat
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:19 am
Haha,....Glad to see we aren't taking ourselves too seriously.
I wouldn't say you are a twat,...sometimes a little militant but I'm sure we all are in one way or another.
FWIW,...I can be an asshole sometimes,...and a little bit of a bitch with the gossip.
I wouldn't say you are a twat,...sometimes a little militant but I'm sure we all are in one way or another.
FWIW,...I can be an asshole sometimes,...and a little bit of a bitch with the gossip.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:26 am
theavondon wrote:Hey, I only use 4 speakers too.
warwick.hoy wrote:Haha,....Glad to see we aren't taking ourselves too seriously.
Ha ha! No need to take cover! we're all gentlemen of fortune here!
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:28 am
warwick.hoy wrote:Haha,....Glad to see we aren't taking ourselves too seriously.
I wouldn't say you are a twat,...sometimes a little militant but I'm sure we all are in one way or another.
FWIW,...I can be an asshole sometimes,...and a little bit of a bitch with the gossip.
Cool, too bad im not actully mark olson
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:31 am
warwick.hoy wrote:Fuzz_Pi wrote:D.o.S. wrote:warwick.hoy wrote:Also to touch on the Tube vs SS with fuzz,....
There was a fella who shall remain nameless that was militantly adamant about only using Tube amps with Fuzz/Disto/Overdrive (talking with bass guitar here),...to the point of flamage of those that disagreed with him. That fella's mindset caused a lot defensiveness from Fuzz>SS user,....but I like that I'm not seeing any I'm right you are wrong and you dumb for being wrong in this discussion,....so big kudos fellas.
While I think there is some merit to what he who shall remain nameless says about Fuzz into Tube amps,....I think the issue is more a guitar issue then a bass issue. I also think that he who shall remain nameless is a little too set in his ways and I'm not convinced that his particular tone is all that great, well it's a decent tone for dad rock, but that's about it.
Again I'm perfectly happy with my fuzz sound into my SS rig,...but I think the amount of power my rig pumps contributes to that satisfaction, and I definitely want to have a go with a Tube amp just to compare and contrast.
His Psychedelic Jamz also left a lot to be desired, if I'm on the same wavelength as you are.
I'M MARK OLSON FUCK BOTH OF YOU
Oh shit.
Well this is embarrassing but I'm unapologetic as rereading my post,...I don't think I said anything that warranted a cuss out.
Just saying.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:31 am
COCK
Haha,....I've been pwned.
Haha,....I've been pwned.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:51 am
I'm kindof in the camp of wishing hard enough and maybe an old Traynor will magically show up next time I go down to my basement so I can finally blast my fuzz into some TOOBZ.
Been using GK for years, haven't had any problems. I like the clean tone to be..sterile. If I want warm tubey gritshit, I grab an OD.
Been using GK for years, haven't had any problems. I like the clean tone to be..sterile. If I want warm tubey gritshit, I grab an OD.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:36 am
warwick.hoy wrote:COCK
Haha,....I've been pwned.
Yes! Now we alllll know that you gossip!
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:36 pm
like a bitch.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:48 pm
lots of watts are required for clean low frequencies. it you just want just big and mean, that may not be necessary.
before you buy a bass head, try your 30-watt guitar amp thru a decent bass cabinet.
I'm a big fan of the old Mesa Boogie Diesel 1x15"s, or any variation of the 15" Thiele cabinet.
you might be suprised at the sound you get from one of these and a 30-watt tube head.
will it work with a loud band? no, but neither will most of these tiny solid-state heads, either.
I know it's been said a million times, too, but V4.
before you buy a bass head, try your 30-watt guitar amp thru a decent bass cabinet.
I'm a big fan of the old Mesa Boogie Diesel 1x15"s, or any variation of the 15" Thiele cabinet.
you might be suprised at the sound you get from one of these and a 30-watt tube head.
will it work with a loud band? no, but neither will most of these tiny solid-state heads, either.
I know it's been said a million times, too, but V4.
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:00 pm
I still don't know why the trend has become 20,000 watt bass specific amps that can't keep up with 50+ year old 60 watt tube technology. My main amps are 180 and 220 watts each, and they can literally inflict physical damage. I bent over to adjust something whilst playing one day, and my face came into the direct line of fire from one of my 12" drivers. IT HURT MY HEAD AND IT WAS AWESOME. Yet my 600 watt solid state backup head has barely enough juice to keep up, WTF?!
Honestly I think the weight of the amp is more important. If it's big and heavy, it'll be loud enough, no matter what the wattage rating is. Buddy of mine has some old Peavey thing rated at like 150 watts, solid state. Fucker weighs 50 pounds and will DESTROY THE ELDERLY if they get too close and look at it funny. I think amp companies these days just make up wattage numbers for shits and giggles. If I keep telling her my dick is 10" long she'll eventually believe it!
More fun with made-up math: guitar amp + Bag End cabs =
Honestly I think the weight of the amp is more important. If it's big and heavy, it'll be loud enough, no matter what the wattage rating is. Buddy of mine has some old Peavey thing rated at like 150 watts, solid state. Fucker weighs 50 pounds and will DESTROY THE ELDERLY if they get too close and look at it funny. I think amp companies these days just make up wattage numbers for shits and giggles. If I keep telling her my dick is 10" long she'll eventually believe it!
More fun with made-up math: guitar amp + Bag End cabs =
Re: School me on bass amps
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:00 pm
Zounds Perspex wrote:lots of watts are required for clean low frequencies. it you just want just big and mean, that may not be necessary.
before you buy a bass head, try your 30-watt guitar amp thru a decent bass cabinet.
I'm a big fan of the old Mesa Boogie Diesel 1x15"s, or any variation of the 15" Thiele cabinet.
you might be suprised at the sound you get from one of these and a 30-watt tube head.
will it work with a loud band? no, but neither will most of these tiny solid-state heads, either.
I definitely advocate for this,....really any bass cab you can find on the cheap would be better than trying to run a bass through Guitar Head + Guitar Cab. As I've said before,...it's not so much the amp as it is that guitar speakers aren't designed to handle bass frequencies.
I know it's been said a million times, too, but V4.
Yes please.
Currently there are two Pignose G40Vs sitting in a pawnshop downtown for like $150 a pops (I could probably snatch em up for $100 a pop). Two of em,....the thought just occurred to me that I should buy both of them and take one and replace the guitar voiced speaker with a bass voiced speaker.
Just secured permission from the wife to move forward on this plan.
EDIT: Friday,...will be new amp day hooray.