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alexa. wrote:I know lots of you guys play in deep down tunings so I'm asking for some advice, ideas, basses I've never heard before.
Passive would be awesome, a 5string bass is ok, but would prefer 4strings due to spacing, but I welcome all propositions

I tune to GDGC a lot Also I think it is a really good idea to turn the bass on your amp all the way up, mids in the middle and the treble all the way down.

I recall diming everything but treble on the RB sounding pretty doomous.

I'm still experimenting if I like RB>ABM or RB>poweramp more.

Also, I've made a decision.
I've dropped my Sterling to HEAD and I just can't believe how fucking playable that bass is..
So I'm going all in and I'm putting some 132 d'addario chromes on him cuz it sounds soooo gooooood.
Just need to get some money and a new nut or sth. (I've got the new compensated nut thingie)

Precision bass is the answer to your quest.

For the really, really low end like with Your tuning You need LOT'S of volume to pump out the low end. A good amp with parametric EQ and You can do just about anything, though it's by no means necessary - just a suggestion. And You need cabs that actually can deliver. I used to run 100w tube amp into a 15" + 18", but nowadays I like perhaps even better a 600w hybrid amp into two 4 X 10 cabs. Lot's of air moving with both rigs.

About the tuning and getting the low end audible: You might want to try a compressor/limitter or an EQ pedal to balance the bass strings output differences. A mid rangy clipping might end up sounding way loud from higher strings, unless You back the frequencies down a bit from the amp. Other than that, thick saturated fuzztortion can do the compression, too, if You're into that.

CaptainWampum wrote:Precision bass is the answer to your quest.

Look I play a Pbass but I disagree, I like the idea of trying something that isn't standard kit and see what happens, any bass "should" work for anything with in reason, it's what you do with it.

Bassus Sanguinis wrote:For the really, really low end like with Your tuning You need LOT'S of volume to pump out the low end. A good amp with parametric EQ and You can do just about anything, though it's by no means necessary - just a suggestion. And You need cabs that actually can deliver. I used to run 100w tube amp into a 15" + 18", but nowadays I like perhaps even better a 600w hybrid amp into two 4 X 10 cabs. Lot's of air moving with both rigs.

About the tuning and getting the low end audible: You might want to try a compressor/limitter or an EQ pedal to balance the bass strings output differences. A mid rangy clipping might end up sounding way loud from higher strings, unless You back the frequencies down a bit from the amp. Other than that, thick saturated fuzztortion can do the compression, too, if You're into that.

Air = good

Comps... well you have to careful about them. Some comps that limit will see your low lows as a spike and won't let it though which if you want a really punchy midheavy sound then that's fine.

Blackened Soul wrote:

CaptainWampum wrote:Precision bass is the answer to your quest.

Look I play a Pbass but I disagree, I like the idea of trying something that isn't standard kit and see what happens, any bass "should" work for anything with in reason, it's what you do with it.

Bassus Sanguinis wrote:For the really, really low end like with Your tuning You need LOT'S of volume to pump out the low end. A good amp with parametric EQ and You can do just about anything, though it's by no means necessary - just a suggestion. And You need cabs that actually can deliver. I used to run 100w tube amp into a 15" + 18", but nowadays I like perhaps even better a 600w hybrid amp into two 4 X 10 cabs. Lot's of air moving with both rigs.

About the tuning and getting the low end audible: You might want to try a compressor/limitter or an EQ pedal to balance the bass strings output differences. A mid rangy clipping might end up sounding way loud from higher strings, unless You back the frequencies down a bit from the amp. Other than that, thick saturated fuzztortion can do the compression, too, if You're into that.

Air = good

Comps... well you have to careful about them. Some comps that limit will see your low lows as a spike and won't let it though which if you want a really punchy midheavy sound then that's fine.

Yeah, I too would opt something different, anything with really heavy body and/or neck through. For the sustain if I was to play doom, especially if I wasn't to play all the time with a fuzz into another fuzz. But seriously, I loved my pbass for the attack - NOT for the sustain. I certainly wouldn't pick it up again for doomy tunes. An old Rick copy, or Aria Pro II or something.

And blksoul is dead right about compressors limiting the ûber massive low ends. My amp for example does that BUT in just the right low end range making it sound only tighter - even with drop C tuning - hardly any less massive. I was anyway mainly interested about more balanced bass output with the dropped tuning.

Get an SVT and a pair of fridges.

F'reals, though, a massive rig is the best thing for this kind of music. I'd wager on a lot of pleasant surprises on how well your bass sounds if you've got the right rig. When I was dooming, I was running a 2x15 and a 4x12. It went Boom!

D.o.S. wrote:Get an SVT and a pair of fridges.

F'reals, though, a massive rig is the best thing for this kind of music. I'd wager on a lot of pleasant surprises on how well your bass sounds if you've got the right rig. When I was dooming, I was running a 2x15 and a 4x12. It went Boom!

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Yeah, dude. For doom with the Rusty Box, I really need two amps, an 8X10 and 4 15"s.

Guess I need to sell a kidney.
There is something doomy about selling kidneys tho.

alexa. wrote:Guess I need to sell a kidney.
There is something doomy about selling kidneys tho.

Selling your Heart or your Soul is doom, selling you kidneys is not. Your heart and soul will mislead you, your kidneys filter all the alcohol you drink at gigs.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:Selling your Heart or your Soul is doom, selling you kidneys is not. Your heart and soul will mislead you, your kidneys filter all the alcohol you drink at gigs.

theavondon wrote:Yeah, dude. For doom with the Rusty Box, I really need two amps, an 8X10 and 4 15"s.

damn

Ancient Astronaught wrote:What gauge strings are you using and have you had the bass setup for that tuning? Those can make a huge difference, especially in the low fundamental notes.

This, plus active electronics are the worst, in my opinion. I've been trying to get my bassist to ditch his Warwick for a "real" bass for 2 years now.