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Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:18 pm
by D.o.S.
MiddleEarthCrisis wrote:It's true that some of the Sunn stuff is overpriced but the same goes for Fender, Orange, Hiwatt, Vox, Matamp, Sound City, and Marshall of the same era.
Last year I purchased a 1968 Sunn Sorado on Ebay for $400 shipped, in a Anvil road case. It had originally auctioned off for $360 and the winner didn't pay, so the seller reposted it BIN for $400. This isn't a rare occurrence, I've seen similar Sunn and Ampeg (I have Ampeg B25B that I purchased for $300) amps
sell in the same price range all the time. I have also seen similar amps
listed for far more but I have yet to see them sell at the higher prices.
If I were to have taken my $400 out on the hunt for similar amps made in that era (or any era for that matter) from most of the other companies I listed, I would have been laughed at.
I do get that certain players/genres of music can definitely influence prices of gear. I also admit I was steered towards Sunn and Ampeg by the style of music I play. To get the sound I wanted I needed amps that took pedals well and stayed clean at loud volumes. Everywhere I looked kept leading me back to Sunn and Ampeg and I still have yet to find another amp in the $300-$400 range that does what I want any better. If you have any suggestions please let me know. The only current amps I found in that range were
Bugeras. What would you consider a fair price for a 40 year old hand wired tube amp? I looked into the Laney you mentioned and they seem to sell in that same range so I guess the "fuckheads" are already onto them. I really am interested in a cheaper alternative if one exist.
To to sum it up:
Yes, Sunn amps can be overpriced but they still offer a better value than most similar amps of the same era.
As far a Emperor goes if they can keep the quality/service up and the price down I'm all for it.

P.S. I can be a dick but I'm not trying to be one right now, so please don't take it like that.
P.S.S.
The Best/Worst of Both Worlds 
Anyway you slice it, though, the Sorado's not a head you can get away with FOR TEH DOOOOMZ!
At least, not with just one. Odds are, if you want to be gigging with high volume and no PA support, you're looking at a 2000S. Orange/Matamp you're going for the OR and GT's. 'Pegs point you toward the Skunkworks SVTs and the Blueline-era heads. Barring that, You're looking at a VR.
All of those, by today's market, sell for 1500-1800-ish. Definitely 2K on the older ones if they're in great condition.
None of which is really a bad thing, it just sucks to be that guy on my rocking chair talking about the good old days when you could easily pick up a nice vintage Model T/Skunkworks/etc. and not have to sell a limb or five.

Also, for $300-400 in doom/psychedelic/Sabbath Warship dollars now I'd shoot for Sovteks and Peavey tube heads from the 80's. Especially for guitarists--the old Peavey Butcher is a JCM800 clone that routinely sells for $150-200 on the interwebs.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:21 pm
by D.o.S.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:01 pm
by MEC
D.o.S. wrote:Anyway you slice it, though, the Sorado's not a head you can get away with FOR TEH DOOOOMZ!
At least, not with just one. Odds are, if you want to be gigging with high volume and no PA support, you're looking at a 2000S. Orange/Matamp you're going for the OR and GT's. 'Pegs point you toward the Skunkworks SVTs and the Blueline-era heads. Barring that, You're looking at a VR.
All of those, by today's market, sell for 1500-1800-ish. Definitely 2K on the older ones if they're in great condition.
None of which is really a bad thing, it just sucks to be that guy on my rocking chair talking about the good old days when you could easily pick up a nice vintage Model T/Skunkworks/etc. and not have to sell a limb or five.

Also, for $300-400 in doom/psychedelic/Sabbath Warship dollars now I'd shoot for Sovteks and Peavey tube heads from the 80's. Especially for guitarists--the old Peavey Butcher is a JCM800 clone that routinely sells for $150-200 on the interwebs.
For Guitar, the Sorado and the Ampeg B25B (Blueline) together, bring 120w of the Doom, which may not qualify me for
http://www.doperigs.com but for the small clubs it's plenty. I use them to run 2 412s and a 215 and the only complaints I've had were that I was too loud. At $700 dollars I think that's pretty fair for a pair of 40yr old amps.
Anyway, my point is all vintage amps are overpriced whether it's a $1500 Model T or a $3000 Marshall.
As far as Peavey goes I've never had good luck with them being reliable.

Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:15 pm
by Moustache_Bash
RedBear Mk120 is THEE AMP. Has a ridiculous amount of low end. Seriously, it's borderline retarded. Can be had for around 5 hundy.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:53 am
by Gone Fission
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:34 am
by Holy Schnikes
It looked so good though!
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:54 pm
by adrianlee
Needs a mids knob.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:18 pm
by Holy Schnikes
"Mids Knob Mod" comes standard in the new Fall Collection. Soon gents, soon.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:45 pm
by adrianlee
Hahahahahah
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:30 pm
by univalve
adrianlee wrote:Needs a mids knob.
What? One tone knob is enough.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:34 pm
by adrianlee
univalve wrote:adrianlee wrote:Needs a mids knob.
What? One tone knob is enough.
Ha. That was in reference to the coach purses.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:38 pm
by Zounds Perspex
hmm, I'm curious about the 150-watter, but fuckin' hell do I need a practice space.
Jammed my 180-watt Electric this weekend until shit started falling off my shelves.
Wifey was pissed, I was stoked.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:56 pm
by adrianlee
loudwizard wrote:hmm, I'm curious about the 150-watter, but fuckin' hell do I need a practice space.
Jammed my 180-watt Electric this weekend until shit started falling off my shelves.
Wifey was pissed, I was stoked.
'im sorry babe, I love you bunches'
......commence more rock.
Re: Emperor Amps Coming Soon
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:40 pm
by Baxandall
I too got to try several of the protos and all of them were tone dripping goodness. The guts looked really well done for prototypes too. Plus I was playing them through Emperor cabs.
