ILF D.I.Y.'er's SOUND OFF

[tuffteef]

Is that board just kinda...hanging there?

gravity

Don't want.

[smallsnd/bigsnd]

Don't want.

[Monkeyboard]

Call me superficial but I like pedals that look good, same goes for guitars. it's not priority number one but I think it matters a little Why else would we get custom artwork on pedals?

I have nothing against a pedal that looks nice on the outside. But that can't be the *only* place where attention to detail is payed, or you end up with a nice looking pedal that breaks down or only half-ass works.

Oh it's definitely not the only reason. Not even the primary reason. You buy a pedal for its tones. But for some reason I feel it's more than worth it to pay Tom or some other builder 15$ for a custom print/paintjob.

I sure hope I'm still more of a player than a collector

[culturejam]

Oh it's definitely not the only reason. Not even the primary reason. You buy a pedal for its tones. But for some reason I feel it's more than worth it to pay Tom or some other builder 15$ for a custom print/paintjob.

That's a totally reasonable fee for that kind of work. And there's nothing wrong with looking awesome. It's just a priority to me that if I'm buying a pedal, it should be professionally built inside and out.

[nbabmf]

Yeah. Sometimes it's a challenge to get a clean look inside, but it's inexcusable to sell something
looking like that. Even the board layout is ugly. Right angles, people!

[The4455]

Yeah. Sometimes it's a challenge to get a clean look inside, but it's inexcusable to sell something
looking like that. Even the board layout is ugly. Right angles, people!

They want $300 for that, how mutch do you think it wold cost you to build one? I'm not intrested I'm just wondering.

[Scruffie]

Yeah. Sometimes it's a challenge to get a clean look inside, but it's inexcusable to sell something
looking like that. Even the board layout is ugly. Right angles, people!

They want $300 for that, how mutch do you think it wold cost you to build one? I'm not intrested I'm just wondering.

Given Time, Labour, Parts, Electricity etc. so the whole thing, $60-80 max probably.

Might be Being generous though, depends on the set up, it could be done for as little as $30.

[fuzzmax]

at least we can put the guitar in it when finish to play

[culturejam]

They want $300 for that, how mutch do you think it wold cost you to build one? I'm not intrested I'm just wondering.

If you already have all the parts laying around (some of us do), it would be pretty cheap in terms of materials. But you wouldn't be able to do the cool finish they do, because they use silk screens.

It would cost you more in time than parts to build one. I say that because I always do my own PCB layout, and that takes a bit of time to set up.

[nbabmf]

CJ brings up a good point that is often overlooked by the casual observer.

Lest we not forget the intangibles that often make up the price: time, experience, knowledge, skill...

[smallsnd/bigsnd]

CJ brings up a good point that is often overlooked by the casual observer.

Lest we not forget the intangibles that often make up the price: time, experience, knowledge, skill...

don't forget marketing, accounting, time spent writing emails, updating website/facebook/forum/twitter, shop or studio rent/bills, any time spent on mods/repairs etc. the list goes on.

that being said - shit pedal looks like shit.

[nbabmf]

You can bypass all that shit if The Edge picks up your pedals. People go crazy when a famous person uses a piece of gear.

[smallsnd/bigsnd]

You can bypass all that shit if The Edge picks up your pedals. People go crazy when a famous person uses a piece of gear.

well, chris taylor from grizzly bear uses (or definitely did use, not totally sure if he still does?) a tafm! i like him WAY more than the edge anyways...

[culturejam]

don't forget marketing, accounting, time spent writing emails, updating website/facebook/forum/twitter, shop or studio rent/bills, any time spent on mods/repairs etc. the list goes on.

From what I've heard, DBA did very little of the things on that list. Especially answering emails. They did have a lot of repair work, however, as you might imagine.

I'm glad to see they have more recently decided to go with fabricated PCBs. It should actually make the pedals cheaper (or give them higher margin, rather) because it saves so much time during assembly. And it *has* to have cut down on repairs.

[tuffteef]

don't forget marketing, accounting, time spent writing emails, updating website/facebook/forum/twitter, shop or studio rent/bills, any time spent on mods/repairs etc. the list goes on.

From what I've heard, DBA did very little of the things on that list. Especially answering emails. They did have a lot of repair work, however, as you might imagine.

I'm glad to see they have more recently decided to go with fabricated PCBs. It should actually make the pedals cheaper (or give them higher margin, rather) because it saves so much time during assembly. And it *has* to have cut down on repairs.

so when do those price drops come in?