Final Tremolessence Prototype Jan 26, page 7

[Teej212]

did you hand solder all that smd stuff??

[RossCanyonsofstatic]

can i trade my old one in for the new one!

[backwhenIwascool]

That is so pretty. So symmetrical. So many nice options. I'll take it.

[Ryan]

Thanks guys! Couldn't have done it without you all! Thanks again for all the thoughts about the features and the box, it's much appreciated and I think we've come up with an awesome tremolo pedal.

Sorry I'm a little late getting back to this thread over the last couple days.. I'm gonna answer all the questions I see..

When is the estimated release for these guys?
Any ideas for color or designs yet? That red looks very snazzy btw.

There's a couple little house-keeping details to tune up with the pcb and then I'll have to sho them around for manufacturing quotes, arrange the box drilling and finishing, pay for the manufacturing and wait... I want it all to go down as fast as possible but the steps can be slow.. it'll be 3 months at least I think for us to be making these.

I think we'll do the first couple finishes in old style Tremolessence finishes.. the kinds with the square and triangle waveform finishes.. something classic like that. And then who knows! Whatever Tanya wants I guess!

Glorious. So, when are you going to mail this to me?

I'm not sure how you're going to without my address, but I'm sure you have your ways.

Ohhh I know where you live. *looks through Compy's window and fogs it up*

So what do all the knobs, buttons, and jacks do?

Good question! *smacks forehead* On the top back panel there's the in/out/9VDC jacks. Stereo in and out so you plug in a TRS jack for stereo and a regular guitar cable for mono. If you want a second output with a mono input you just click the plug into the first click of the jack.

The top left knob is volume, goes from pretty quiet to a big volume boost. The top right knob is treble, it's active so it goes from really dark all the way down to really bright all the way up with normal being in the middle. The big LED at the top in the bezel is the on/off LED. The little LED below it is the oscillator LED, it shows what the oscillator is doing in terms of waveform shape, depth, and rate and is always on.

The middle left knob is shape and it changes the duty cycle/symmetry of the waveforms.. triangle waveform gets shaped into ramps up and down and the square waveform gets shaped into.. well.. blips or bleeps. Longs or shorts or 50/50.

The middle toggle switch chooses between triangle waveform or square waveform.

The middle right knob is depth. The bottom right knob is rate. The bottom left knob is for the hold mode and it controls the rise time or how long the effect takes to ramp in. The bottom toggle switch chooses between normal on/off mode and the hold mode.

On the side of the box are expression jacks for depth and rate. They both work off of control voltage.

Does it have true geranium bypass?

Yeah it does... two.. for stereo. Stereo geranium bypass. (this picture has 6 geranium bypasses but I'm just not there yet, I don't even know how you wire that.

[Ryan]

...but can it do dotted eighths?

It'll do dotted, slotted, potted, and rotted eighths.. plus quarters, halves, wholes, and sixty-fourths. (You thought you had me there, Jon, but I flipped it on you!)

hows the ramp?
or latch?
or whatever?

It's great, Blake, and thanks for asking! It works quite nicely and I think it's a cool feature for adding some expressiveness to the effect for those without expression pedals.

It also has a cool kinda use as a buffered bypass. When you're in hold mode, the pedal is on but the signal is completely unaffected by the modulation, totally dry. So you can match your exact volume and treble settings and have basically a buffered bypass that you can tailor the sound of. Like a boosted bypass if you want since the controls are still active. And then when you hold down the stomp switch, you get tremolo too. Like getting two birds stoned.

LOOKS GREAT, RY!! OMG MOON'S HOLLOW? SINCE WHEN?!

Only a few thousand years or so, since they flew it in. They proved its hollowness on the moon landings... I'm hoping to get a time share condo there.

Never mind the semantics, where are the CLIPS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

Haha, I swear I'll do clips soon! Video clips.. and in stereo too...

did you hand solder all that smd stuff??

Heck yeah! It's not so bad though, I like working with smd... I got pretty good at it doing all the big box RRR pcbs.

can i trade my old one in for the new one!

Now Ross, this isn't exactly a question but I'm gonna answer it anyway... no! Imagine having your old one and a new one though... tri-stereo tremolo...you don't hear that very often!

Thanks again, guys, and I'll keep the progress reports coming.. I'm excited to be back in the tremolo business, we retired the old version a few months ago now and I miss my squares and triangles.

[veteransdaypoppy]

yo if you dudes do pcb tremolessences like yer doing the miniberators you better send some to prymaxe. or i'll e-mail you endlessly.
i'll kiss you so hard.

you'll be like "dude stop kissing so hard" and i'll just tell you that i love you a lot. and you'll learn to live with that commitment.

[oinkbanana]

i don't think i've ever been so excited for a pedal.

I totally forgot that it had a duty cycle/symmetry knob.
and i keep thinking about how i'm gonna abuse that latch feature it's gonna give everyone tons of envy!

and ryan, stop calling this simply the "Tremolessence" pedal. It's clearly the Ultimate Tremolessence!!!

[futuresailors]

Ryan, that's super-awesome!

Ultimoessence?

[AngryGoldfish]

hows the ramp?
or latch?
or whatever?

Wait, this bitch is gonna have a ramp feature?! Is it just for off and on?

It also has a cool kinda use as a buffered bypass. When you're in hold mode, the pedal is on but the signal is completely unaffected by the modulation, totally dry. So you can match your exact volume and treble settings and have basically a buffered bypass that you can tailor the sound of. Like a boosted bypass if you want since the controls are still active. And then when you hold down the stomp switch, you get tremolo too. Like getting two birds stoned.

That is very clever.

:)*
yo if you dudes do pcb tremolessences like yer doing the miniberators you better send some to prymaxe. or i'll e-mail you endlessly.
i'll kiss you so hard.

you'll be like "dude stop kissing so hard" and i'll just tell you that i love you a lot. and you'll learn to live with that commitment.

It would be awesome if Prymaxe started stocking Dr. Scientist. They're great guys.

[oinkbanana]

as of today I want my tremolessence pedal to have a stomp for the hold feature instead of a switch.....
it'll probably have to be in a bigger box too.
I wonder who I'll get to mod that.....


lolollolol

[randel_07]

ryan. that is awesome.

[Ryan]

:)*
yo if you dudes do pcb tremolessences like yer doing the miniberators you better send some to prymaxe. or i'll e-mail you endlessly.
i'll kiss you so hard.

you'll be like "dude stop kissing so hard" and i'll just tell you that i love you a lot. and you'll learn to live with that commitment.

Haha right on, Jeff, thanks! We're actually doing these Tremolessences in the same style as the mini-RRRs right from the get go. That's not a pcb that can be done by hand, a machine needs to make that. And the box will be way too complicated with controls for Tanya to work with, it would take her a whole day just to get all the control labels down, so powder coating and screen printing is the best option too. (I'm exaggerating a bit there but the more knobs and switches and jacks that a pedal gets the more it just becomes a chore for her of placing letters on the box and it's a real grind.)

We'll be making progress with that as fast as we can, it takes a little while but then we'll be able to get these pedals out to stores like never before.

Prymaxe will get them too, I'm looking forward to working with Cory and we'll be sending him mini-RRRs next week, the pcbs and boxes are in the mail to us right now.

I think I've satisfied all the requirements of your message so it's hard kissing time now I guess. *braces self*

as of today I want my tremolessence pedal to have a stomp for the hold feature instead of a switch.....
it'll probably have to be in a bigger box too.
I wonder who I'll get to mod that.....


lolollolol

*jumps out window*

Wait, this bitch is gonna have a ramp feature?! Is it just for off and on?

Hey Danny! The hold or latch or ramp feature or whatever the heck we're calling it is a setting that lets you leave your Tremolessence on and dry and then you can bring in the tremoloing by holding down your stomp switch and it fades back out when you release the switch. You can control how long it takes the waveform to start tremoloing with the rise knob. It's just a little feature to give a little bit of expressiveness to the pedal.

I'm still working on a final pcb version that will be set up properly for the manufacturer and that's the next step in the process, shopping around the pcb layout for production quotes. Least fun part!

[one bad monkey]

The hold or latch or ramp feature or whatever the heck we're calling it is a setting that lets you leave your Tremolessence on and dry and then you can bring in the tremoloing by holding down your stomp switch and it fades back out when you release the switch. You can control how long it takes the waveform to start tremoloing with the rise knob. It's just a little feature to give a little bit of expressiveness to the pedal.

That sounds SWEET!!! Pretty much like controlling vibrato with a stringed instrument (and by that, I mean violin family where it's more noticeable).

[Ryan]

That sounds SWEET!!! Pretty much like controlling vibrato with a stringed instrument (and by that, I mean violin family where it's more noticeable).

Yeah, totally! And that's where I got the idea from in the first place, the VB-2 vibrato pedal... I think it's similarly cool with tremolo. Any modulation really!

[proroby]

Hey Danny! The hold or latch or ramp feature or whatever the heck we're calling it is a setting that lets you leave your Tremolessence on and dry and then you can bring in the tremoloing by holding down your stomp switch and it fades back out when you release the switch. You can control how long it takes the waveform to start tremoloing with the rise knob. It's just a little feature to give a little bit of expressiveness to the pedal.

I'm still working on a final pcb version that will be set up properly for the manufacturer and that's the next step in the process, shopping around the pcb layout for production quotes. Least fun part!

/changes pants