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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:16 am
by new05002
AxAxSxS wrote:Nick you make some fucking amazing sounding demo's. Do you record at lower volumes mostly? Another thing about backing off is if you like to mix speakers, you get the whole sound. I think it adds depth to the sound as well.
the kick mic is probably way less sensative so adjustment would be a lot smaller. I use sm57, 58's and some cheap condensor mics. For live band recordings, just the condensors
I usually try to record a high volume. If I feel like doing it right I mix camera audio with audio from a large body condenser which is about 1 foot away from the cab at an angle, ala the Annunaki demo. Soundcloud is just the condenser mic
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:10 am
by Ancient Astronaught
skullservant wrote:Got a mic stand tonight, so I was able to position it in the proper location for recording. This is my first test:
ARC Gamut -> Madbean Egghead Overdrive -> EA Super Collider -> Eventide Timefactor -> TC Trinity Reverb -> Out 1 to Verellen stack with kickdrum mic, Out 2 to Epi Valve Junior with 60's Vocal Mic
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/skullservant/02192013-1[/soundcloud]

Damn dude shit is hot!!!!! Love that reverbed sound 2/3 of the way in, is that the trinity?
As far as the micing / mixing, yeah the drums are definitely peaking out in the mix. As far as the guitar though on my shitty work laptop it sounded pretty good, I perceive the mud in the mix coming from the low end in the drums. Since your using a kick mic on the cab, especially a "budget friendly" one backing off the mic isn't going to help your tone all that well. I use a variety of low end capturing mics for guitar (sub-kick, various kick mics PR48 / F14) and they need to be right up on the speakergrill to get the right amount of signal, while other more standard dynamics like an sm57 or equivalent need to be atleast an inch or so off the grill. This is mainly due to whats called proximity effect (which causes an unnatural bass boost), which most kick mics are designed to be unaffected by.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:14 am
by skullservant
Thanks dude!!
And yeah, half Trinity, and half this delay I made on the TimeFactor that pretty much sounds like a freeze mixed with a cathedral setting reverb- everything just lingers!
I'll mix down the drums a bit when I get home and put up that mix as well!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:18 am
by Ancient Astronaught
skullservant wrote:Thanks dude!!
And yeah, half Trinity, and half this delay I made on the TimeFactor that pretty much sounds like a freeze mixed with a cathedral setting reverb- everything just lingers!
I'll mix down the drums a bit when I get home and put up that mix as well!
No problem!!!
Loving that tone my friend definitely keep those settings around! It's that perfect mashup of gaze-y and doom-y.
Cool, if you need any help or anything I'm just a text away!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:41 am
by conky
new05002 wrote:Swapped the BKP Pig90 and Stockholm from baritone in this guitar

Now later I will put the blade pups into the baritone
That LP looks pretty sweet. And we have the same record player too.
D-Day wrote:I just realized I only posted one of the sweet posters that I meant to yesterday.
Awesome line up. I have been jamming Serial Hawk non stop for the past few weeks. I really need to get the vinyl.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:41 am
by skullservant
Yeah I totally dig the verbs and delays coming out of this- and the SC DEFINITELY has a home on my board now. I'm so happy!
I'll definitely hit you up with questions man, thank you!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:56 am
by moose23
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:22 am
by Ancient Astronaught
So I finally got to mess around with my gig rig since the show this past saturday and found out that my VB-2 didn't shit the bed, my cab just stopped working

So I brought it home to open it up and check it out tonight, I'm hoping that just a solder connection came loose or disconnected. Worst comes to worse I blew all of the speakers somehow (260w cab blown by a 225w head on 1.5?!?!?!) but atleast I can fix the cab my self, in comparison to the amp which I would have to take to a tech. Still haven't gotten a chance to double check the VB-2 yet, but no other heads worked with the cab. I'll be double checking the VB-2 on thursday.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:25 am
by new05002
moose nice iron man, looks like partridge given the intense lacquering on them.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:28 am
by new05002
Ancient Astronaught wrote:So I finally got to mess around with my gig rig since the show this past saturday and found out that my VB-2 didn't shit the bed, my cab just stopped working

So I brought it home to open it up and check it out tonight, I'm hoping that just a solder connection came loose or disconnected. Worst comes to worse I blew all of the speakers somehow (260w cab blown by a 225w head on 1.5?!?!?!) but atleast I can fix the cab my self, in comparison to the amp which I would have to take to a tech. Still haven't gotten a chance to double check the VB-2 yet, but no other heads worked with the cab. I'll be double checking the VB-2 on thursday.
well u did get to use naki for bass. I guess lucky experiment. Could just be a shit jack.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:33 am
by t-rey
vidret wrote:congrats on wedding!
oh and t-rey, i'm not that vid. i'm just a semi-regular from hcfx, i PLAY the guitar, i can't build guitars.. or peddles. well, pretty much.
Touche - I definitely remember you from over there, and still glad you made it over here
new05002 wrote:this is some of the really important research i am involved in

Seems like you guys have really mastered invisibility. You should start working on growing money trees next.
skullservant wrote:Got a mic stand tonight, so I was able to position it in the proper location for recording. This is my first test:
ARC Gamut -> Madbean Egghead Overdrive -> EA Super Collider -> Eventide Timefactor -> TC Trinity Reverb -> Out 1 to Verellen stack with kickdrum mic, Out 2 to Epi Valve Junior with 60's Vocal Mic
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/skullservant/02192013-1[/soundcloud]

Sounds great. I love that someone else here has a little stereo setup like me

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:36 am
by Ancient Astronaught
new05002 wrote:well u did get to use naki for bass. I guess lucky experiment. Could just be a shit jack.
Yes I did!!! Sounded sick!!!! Also found out a few things about amp + cab interaction. The Dunwich through a 1000w cab needs to be cranked (2-3:00) to get to practice / gigging volume, but it through a 300w + 390w cab is ungodly loud. It seems the closer you get your cab wattage rating to the output of the amp, the louder it gets according to the volume dial. Gotta say though that the Naki as a bass amp had this wonderfully warm and full low end, but its alot more hi-fi and full range then the VB-2, so I think that it would need some tens to go with my 15's to get the most out of it.
Yeah I'm thinking its a solder connection, or a shit jack. That's the only two things I can think of that would make a cabinet produce absolutely no sound, not even 60hz hum. We'll find out tonight.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:48 am
by moose23
new05002 wrote:moose nice iron man, looks like partridge given the intense lacquering on them.
From what I've read it's apparently not Partridge but the lacquering makes me think it's a copy of some sort. The output transformer looks more like a Partridge than the Mains though. Check out all the exposed terminals and the straight brackets, might need some bells for there. Only labelling I've found is a dried up sticker with "HEAVY DUTY" MAINS TRANS on it.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:49 am
by new05002
mmm nice that it can work as a bass amp. Not entirely designed for that but can function well with proper cabs.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:50 am
by new05002
moose23 wrote:new05002 wrote:moose nice iron man, looks like partridge given the intense lacquering on them.
From what I've read it's apparently not Partridge but the lacquering makes me think it's a copy of some sort. The output transformer looks more like a Partridge than the Mains though. Check out all the exposed terminals and the straight brackets, might need some bells for there. Only labelling I've found is a dried up sticker with "HEAVY DUTY" MAINS TRANS on it.

interesting. I dont know so much about old partridge stuff. Oli Foxen probablys knows more than I do about it.