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Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:36 am
by UglyCasanova
codetocontra wrote:I couldn't bond with the IJ. To increase the volume the gain had to be up, which resulted in some grit on everything. I was pretty close to just leaving it cranked and using it as a distortion source.
I thought there was a secondary/hidden function to boost the signal without adding gain on this one. Haven't owned one, so I may very well be wrong.
Edit: ya
Master Volume can be adjusted by holding Footswitch A and turning the Dry control.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:55 pm
by codetocontra
I recall doing that and it was just wasn't quite enough without adding the gain too. Maybe just me but I don't have these problems normally.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:58 pm
by Jwar
Agree it didn't have nearly enough volume on tap which is a killer for me as well. I don't play super loud, so I like my pedals to have a little volume to them. If they don't make the cut, they get kicked. Several I'm looking at chopping soon just because of that reason.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:05 pm
by codetocontra
I think would be better suited in a studio environment where you could tweak levels after the fact and take a moment to tweak the knobs for a particular sound. But it was not quite as functional at my feet unless I wanted the extra grit every time I used the pedal. There are a lot of cool sounds in that box though. I want to play another sometime but probably wouldn't happen unless someone brings one to the next ILF MW meetup.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:22 pm
by zoooombiex
UglyCasanova wrote:Have they fixed the low end cut problem yet? I got to try one this summer, and there was some serious cut of lower frequencies, even without any wet signal. The moment you engaged the pedal, poof, there goes a good portion of lows, at 100% dry. Super weird.
I checked mine last night. There was a slight change in the tone going from bypassed to on/100% dry. Maybe a slight change in the bass response. But I wouldn't consider it anything major. And certainly not a deal-killer IMO if you otherwise like what it does.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:41 pm
by shikawkee
I run mine in a stereo loop out at the end of my chain. That way I don't notice it as much and it's mixed down on that side anyways.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:55 pm
by UglyCasanova
zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:Have they fixed the low end cut problem yet? I got to try one this summer, and there was some serious cut of lower frequencies, even without any wet signal. The moment you engaged the pedal, poof, there goes a good portion of lows, at 100% dry. Super weird.
I checked mine last night. There was a slight change in the tone going from bypassed to on/100% dry. Maybe a slight change in the bass response. But I wouldn't consider it anything major. And certainly not a deal-killer IMO if you otherwise like what it does.
I mainly play bass, so it's sort of a big deal.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:11 pm
by zoooombiex
UglyCasanova wrote:zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:Have they fixed the low end cut problem yet? I got to try one this summer, and there was some serious cut of lower frequencies, even without any wet signal. The moment you engaged the pedal, poof, there goes a good portion of lows, at 100% dry. Super weird.
I checked mine last night. There was a slight change in the tone going from bypassed to on/100% dry. Maybe a slight change in the bass response. But I wouldn't consider it anything major. And certainly not a deal-killer IMO if you otherwise like what it does.
I mainly play bass, so it's sort of a big deal.
FWIW, I mainly play keyboards and was testing this on the low end of my boards. I even used a pitch shifter to drop it down even lower to see how it responded.
There was definitely an audible difference, so I'm not saying you're wrong. But at least on my unit in my setup, it wasn't anything I would consider substantial. Just putting it out there for others who may be interested in the pedal and were concerned by your comment on your experience.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:33 pm
by UglyCasanova
zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:Have they fixed the low end cut problem yet? I got to try one this summer, and there was some serious cut of lower frequencies, even without any wet signal. The moment you engaged the pedal, poof, there goes a good portion of lows, at 100% dry. Super weird.
I checked mine last night. There was a slight change in the tone going from bypassed to on/100% dry. Maybe a slight change in the bass response. But I wouldn't consider it anything major. And certainly not a deal-killer IMO if you otherwise like what it does.
I mainly play bass, so it's sort of a big deal.
FWIW, I mainly play keyboards and was testing this on the low end of my boards. I even used a pitch shifter to drop it down even lower to see how it responded.
for it to
There was definitely an audible difference, so I'm not saying you're wrong. But at least on my unit in my setup, it wasn't anything I would consider substantial. Just putting it out there for others who may be interested in the pedal and were concerned by your comment on your experience.
That's fair. same thing I was doing
I do, however, call to the stand the 4-5 ILFers who were there when we gave it a test spin. I honestly can't recall who else was there but Simon The Magpie, but we all agreed that the low end cut was pretty bad and that it made no sense for it to be there at 100% dry. We also opened it up to look at the PCB and there's no reason for it to have side jacks either.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:37 pm
by shikawkee
The side jacks suck for sure.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:39 pm
by zoooombiex
UglyCasanova wrote:zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:Have they fixed the low end cut problem yet? I got to try one this summer, and there was some serious cut of lower frequencies, even without any wet signal. The moment you engaged the pedal, poof, there goes a good portion of lows, at 100% dry. Super weird.
I checked mine last night. There was a slight change in the tone going from bypassed to on/100% dry. Maybe a slight change in the bass response. But I wouldn't consider it anything major. And certainly not a deal-killer IMO if you otherwise like what it does.
I mainly play bass, so it's sort of a big deal.
FWIW, I mainly play keyboards and was testing this on the low end of my boards. I even used a pitch shifter to drop it down even lower to see how it responded.
for it to
There was definitely an audible difference, so I'm not saying you're wrong. But at least on my unit in my setup, it wasn't anything I would consider substantial. Just putting it out there for others who may be interested in the pedal and were concerned by your comment on your experience.
That's fair. same thing I was doing
I do, however, call to the stand the 4-5 ILFers who were there when we gave it a test spin. I honestly can't recall who else was there but Simon The Magpie, but we all agreed that the low end cut was pretty bad and that it made no sense for it to be there at 100% dry. We also opened it up to look at the PCB and there's no reason for it to have side jacks either.
Yeah, 100% agreed that there's no reason to have any change at full dry. AND that there shouldn't be side jacks on this boat!
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:39 pm
by DRodriguez
I heard the bass cut on guitar the first time I tried it out. Which immediately is a warning sign to me for synths and bass stuff.
Not necessarily a pedal killer, but definitely not ideal.
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:16 pm
by worra
zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:zoooombiex wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:Have they fixed the low end cut problem yet? I got to try one this summer, and there was some serious cut of lower frequencies, even without any wet signal. The moment you engaged the pedal, poof, there goes a good portion of lows, at 100% dry. Super weird.
I checked mine last night. There was a slight change in the tone going from bypassed to on/100% dry. Maybe a slight change in the bass response. But I wouldn't consider it anything major. And certainly not a deal-killer IMO if you otherwise like what it does.
I mainly play bass, so it's sort of a big deal.
FWIW, I mainly play keyboards and was testing this on the low end of my boards. I even used a pitch shifter to drop it down even lower to see how it responded.
There was definitely an audible difference, so I'm not saying you're wrong. But at least on my unit in my setup, it wasn't anything I would consider substantial. Just putting it out there for others who may be interested in the pedal and were concerned by your comment on your experience.
Sold mine because I wanted to use it on synth more and with my Sub37 this was a 100% deal breaker. No matter how much or how little I tweaked the gain, even with all of the wet signal cut, there's significant low end loss.
And side jacks make me sad.
Edit to say while it was also present on guitar, it had much less of a dramatic effect and didn't really bother me in a measurable way
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:42 pm
by zoooombiex
Weird. I wonder if mine is somehow different (seems unlikely), or perhaps something in my setup is mitigating the bass loss?
Do any of you have a clip of yours showing the degree of the bass cut?
And did any of you contact the folks at Hologram about this?
Re: Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:00 pm
by themagpie
Would be awesome to get a statement from Hologram. Both the Infinite and Dream seq drops a lot of low end even in dry signal. So its something with the signal being all digital even before the wacko effects? Also why the fuck did they drop all midi when making a synth pedal after having that on a pitcholo pedal? Fashion over function?
Maybe the thinking is that a synth pedal isnt made to use with synth rather make not synths synths