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Ruiner wrote:Got an incoming new controller that i've been eyeing for quite some time (ever since i fell in love with the Ondes Martenot). Johnny Greenwood had one of these made when he decided he didn't want to take his Ondes Martenot on tour with Radiohead and they released a fairly small batch at that time. Really excited about the possibilities this brings into opening up the performance aspect of my modular system. This will be here on Friday.

Have you ever tried an original?

D.o.S. wrote:
Have you ever tried an original?

No, i've been watching locally for quite some time and have never seen one available anywhere. While i'd love an original and do want to get the original sound out of it i'm more excited about the possibilities of this integrated with my modular. I think i've watched every video on the net of the original and this one and I want to do something quite different than what seems to be done by most owners currently. I'm looking forward to experimenting.

Ruiner wrote:

behndy wrote:mannnnnnnn the Metropolis is BIG but i love it so much. and Rings is probably my favorite sounding sound source i have. i mean. like. reliably? i fuck around with melodies into it and am just HAPPY.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM0XpFG-AtE[/youtube]

the lower end melody thinger is STO -> MotoMouth.

Sounding good man! Lots of interesting stuff happening there!

thank you suh!

lol. the Motomouth is so FUN. i can already tell it would be super easy to over use it.

also, HURM.

so. main reason i wanted to go to a larger rack was to have roon for all the loots, but definitely some MIXING.

two question sections.

01) Mixxxy Timez

i was all set on the WMD Performance Mixer, but..... no individual outs. which. WANT. but the whole point of a mixer is to be able to record mutes and fades as a part of performance/idea work throughs. the options for such wants and needs seems..... limited?

so i'm stumped. want to have individual outs to be able to isolate separate bits when working, want them post fader, would love an effects loop, want it large enough to get my fingers on things.

Buck Modular is coming out with a 6u 4 input mixer with individual outs, but that might be too tiny. very basic mixing too. FRAP is a way to go, but i just really can't see spending 2 to 3 g's on 6 in/outs. their stuff is PRICY.

the Xaoc Praga? just watched a Praga vidja.... mebbe that? hawtness?

i like the WMD mixer a lot, something like that with separate outs? does it exist?

02) Layout Boops?

kinda think it makes sense to have most things that predominantly go together next to each other, so does a row with drummish sequencers and drum sources, then a row with all the oscs with the melodic sequencers..... is that how most people roll?

The question is basically : do you want voltage control on things ?

If not or not really, an external mixer is easier and muuuuch cheaper if you want aux sends, individual outs, EQ, etc. I think you have a K-Mix, which would be perfect for that.
You can always have VCAs before the mixer's individual inputs and control things from there if needed.

If you want things in the modular then I think you'd be happier with the flexibility of a matrix mixer. Doepfer has a good/efficient/relatively inexpensive one.
And if you also want voltage control there's the 4MS VCA Matrix too. These are "just" 4*4 though.

You could also be ok with a matrix mixer + a another mixer module too. It all depends on what you want to achieve precisely...

behndy wrote:also, HURM.

so. main reason i wanted to go to a larger rack was to have roon for all the loots, but definitely some MIXING.

two question sections.

01) Mixxxy Timez

i was all set on the WMD Performance Mixer, but..... no individual outs. which. WANT. but the whole point of a mixer is to be able to record mutes and fades as a part of performance/idea work throughs. the options for such wants and needs seems..... limited?

so i'm stumped. want to have individual outs to be able to isolate separate bits when working, want them post fader, would love an effects loop, want it large enough to get my fingers on things.

Buck Modular is coming out with a 6u 4 input mixer with individual outs, but that might be too tiny. very basic mixing too. FRAP is a way to go, but i just really can't see spending 2 to 3 g's on 6 in/outs. their stuff is PRICY.

the Xaoc Praga? just watched a Praga vidja.... mebbe that? hawtness?

i like the WMD mixer a lot, something like that with separate outs? does it exist?

I think it's best to not have all your eggs in one basket for mixing. If your'e using an external mixer/interface then all your rack mixing is submixing anyway. I'd rather have a Praga or a Mixology, supported by other small mixers, than have it all packed into the WMD. I still use the Torcido for big digital stereo mixes, haven't found anything better yet. Rosie might also be a good extra little mixer for you since you're in multiple racks.

02) Layout Boops?

kinda think it makes sense to have most things that predominantly go together next to each other, so does a row with drummish sequencers and drum sources, then a row with all the oscs with the melodic sequencers..... is that how most people roll?

It depends on what direction you want to be patching in, to some extent. I've been paying more attention to the vertical connections for a while now, and give the side by side placement to alternate combos.

DPLR and second Pico Drums are here, so I'm rearranging both racks again. Some pairings never change and some are revisited from time to time. Sometimes I think I've made a perfect row that should never be fucked with for any reason ever, but they never last.

jia. cv control looks FUN, but mostly i want to have a sort of.... base patching? where as a self contained box of synth chunks, it's ret to go when i sit down? then work moving cables around from there?

Praga looks good. i like that you can link two for 8 channels.

hurm. i like the K-Mix a lot, but i can't get it to work where it records mixing THINGS. so if i'm muting/unmuting or fading in something whilst wubbling around, it's always a steady signal into the computer.

annnnnnd i still hold out hopes of mebbe playing out, so basically everything in one case APPEALS.

OK well I'll ask here! I'm interested in getting into modular synthesizers and creating some noise! I was thinking about building an Atari Punk Console with some momentary switches for creating bleeps and bloops, and maybe the Peyote Space Explorer.. just to start making some noise. Does anyone have any highly suggested DIY builds for a good introduction? Thanks

I don't think that oscillator set up sounds like overkill One thing I was looking at to provide "oscillators in a pinch" but can do a lot of other stuff is the WMD/SSF Modbox. 2 LFOs with different waveforms that can track at 1v/oct, plus S+H. I might go for one of those at some point in the future.

& I am definitely looking at oscillators from the opposite perspective. I'd much rather have a sound source that has variety on tap rather than running them through stuff. Not saying either is better or worse, but one thing I've notice about using the DPO vs Myst+TelHarm is I miss the ability to alter the timber and quality of the sound with the DPO like I can with the other two (beyond FM and wavefolding). I know I said I was not going to sell the DPO, and I'm not right now, but I think my long term move would be to replace it with STO/Mangrove/Cursus Iteritas. Same HP, able to be broken up, and more on board modulation possibilities. Modular is great because there is no or wrong right way

Also think I've settled on the Intellijel 7ux84hp case instead of the Mantis, more travel friendly and the 1U utilities will make an external mixer way way way less necessary. The challenge of less space is welcomed

For me, all my crap has to fit in one 5x2 table, including a mic, laptop, audio and midi interface, Nord drum 2, Gotharman's Fuzion, Linnstrument, 12u modular and 3u skiff. The table is pretty much full without an external mixer. I decided to get the WMD Performance Mixer and PM Mutes and I *mostly* love it. The CV on it is great, it sounds great and it fits well. The very bottom of the slider range is very delicate! If you want to gradually introduce something to the mix you must use a very light touch. There is an eventual d-sub expander planned that will give you individual outs direct to your interface provided you have enough inputs available. I can't wait for it!

BetterOffShred wrote:OK well I'll ask here! I'm interested in getting into modular synthesizers and creating some noise! I was thinking about building an Atari Punk Console with some momentary switches for creating bleeps and bloops, and maybe the Peyote Space Explorer.. just to start making some noise. Does anyone have any highly suggested DIY builds for a good introduction? Thanks

Trogotronic m11 is a great little momentary switch/vca/fire button. https://trogotronic.com/product/m11/

I think I dislike the Optomix. Like in theory it checks off a lot of boxes, but in practice I find the filtering affects the output volume too much and the mixing isn't that great and the combo knob for CV is annoying... Basically since I've had it I was like "nah I'll get use to it and figure it out" but it's really not to my liking.


So I put Blinds back in my skiff and god damn do I love bipolar VCAs for modulation

Controller help please!

So I got a French Connection controller for my eurorack. I plug the CV Out on the controller to the pitch (1 volt per octave) on my oscillator. I held down middle C and tuned to C4 using an O'Tools tuner. C is now tuned. I hit the D key on the controller and it is tuned to a very sharp C# instead of D. Anyone know what could cause this? Am I doing something wrong? (I tried several oscillators)

(Note:Some of my outlets in my music room are not grounded. I believe the one i have it plugged into is but i need to check. Don't know if that could affect it somehow or not but thought i'd mention it.)


Here's a look at the output options

vidret wrote:maybe your 1300$ keyboard isn't calibrated

check the manual, perhaps you're offsetting by range up or down somehow (meaning something else should be set to zero, kind of how filter frequencies can move with keyboard pitch). it'd be dumb if that was it though.

is anything else offsetting it in the path?

The manual is short and doesn't help in this situation. Nothing is in the path. Going straight to the oscillator and the output of the oscillator is going straight to the O'Tools to read the tuning.

I would ask on Muffwiggler dude. It's going to be hard to find someone here that knows anything about these given the rareness factor. Those dudes probably know what's up.