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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:45 pm
by CaptainBoxman
Aaaaaaand GAS made me buy an RE-20.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:48 pm
by samzadgan
CaptainBoxman wrote:Aaaaaaand GAS made me buy an RE-20.


damn that GAS...congrats dude.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:58 pm
by AngryGoldfish
samzadgan wrote:
sergiomunoz74 wrote:Thanks I was wondering as there are sooo many random conflicting things on what type of wood they were actually made of. I'm interested as I love the shape, but if you say it sounds good then I have no problem doing some simple hardware upgrades and dealing with the wood. I mean it's going to be a doom machine so it's just gonna stay in a low tuning and heavily distorted anyway so I don't really think much of that matters besides it having some balls.


to be honest wood has little to do with tone when your talking guitars at this level (which are all my guitars too)...i thought that wood makes a big difference, and had a huge issue with an Epiphone V that has a plastic fretboard, and i put the sound problems down to that and the weight of the body...the guitar tech told me that on these cheap to mid price guitars wood doesn't really come into it, about 90% of the sound comes from pickups themselves. A lot of it is to do with the fact that there is so much paint and lacquer of the wood that the it doesn't really have a chance to impact the tone as much as say a Gibson LP standard which has Nitro and the wood actually breaths and adds to the tone of the guitar.

so although a lot people get bent on the wood not being korina, the reality is that even the ones that are korina are probably not a great quality, have not been aged and at the end of the day, it would have a veneer on it anyway because the Korina they use doesn't have the aesthetic qualities of the A-Grade Korina used in a Gibson version...then you have the layers upon layers of lacquer.

like you say, put some thick strings on, tune down, plug in some heavyness and you'll be fine!

I agree. Scale length plays a large part as well. Mahogany, by nature, isn't a dark wood like some would assume (since a Les Paul is 'dark'). It's actually quite bright inherently, but because of the short scale length and PAF style humbuckers normally found on a Les Paul it ends up being a dark sounding guitar. The big body and neck joint adds sustain and compression, which offers big low-end and brute force. Fingerboards have arguably a bigger impact than the body wood. You can tell a Maple fretboard guitar compared to a Rosewood. But again, the scale length plays a part in this comparison, as does the pickups.

samzadgan wrote:so...besides fuzz and dirt pedals, what does everyone have on their board? I know everyone would have delay, and i'm set with that...but was thinking about trying something new. The reason it sparked my interest, yesterday i set my delay to a reverb type setting and it really beefed up the sound and i liked it...so now I'm thinking about getting a reverb pedal...and that got me thinking about all the other types pedals like tremelo, phaser, etc...what i'm wondering though is, what people find useful and what is a waste of time?

Tremolo, phaser and reverb are my most used pedals beside dirt. Then other forms of modulation (synth, pitch shifters, etc.), and delay come after that.

Reverbs that work well with dirt and that don't mind where they're placed in the chain in relation to other pedals is very handy. The same goes for phasers. Some of them only like being before dirt, while others don't mind. My Subdecay Quasar DLX has a lot of functionality, so I can place it in my loop and use the controls to tweak it to my rig and loop.

Tremolo is really quite annoying live without a tap-tempo. At home it's fine, but not on stage. You need it to be as close to your tempo as possible. It'll never be perfect, and you'll naturally sway with your band, but that's what having the tap-tempo is for. If you hear yourself going off, you can just stomp a few times and you're back in time.

Also, look into bit crushers, ring modulators, and other signal degraders. They're great for Post-Metal bouts. I usually keep a ring mod, bit crusher, and tape warble on my board. The tape warble is from the Mid-Fi Electronics Deluxe Pitch Pirate. It functions as a digital delay with modulation, but it also performs amicably as vibrato with vintage artefacts and noise.

samzadgan wrote:so whats a good reverb with a small footprint?

I have the Mr.Black Eterna and the EQD Ghost Echo. I've also owned the Dr. Scientist Mini-Reverberator. I prefer the Ghost Echo the most. They can be found in a smaller enclosure these days. Best reverb for thick distortion, IMO.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:59 pm
by Droneforbreakfast
CaptainBoxman wrote:Aaaaaaand GAS made me buy an RE-20.

awesome buy, you'll love it.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:10 pm
by pelliott
NGD! Well, I had some Guitar Center gift cards left over from the holidays... And this was $100 off today PLUS they gave me a $50 gift card with it... And I've been looking for new guitars for a while...

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AND IT WAS THE CORRECT DECISION.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:11 pm
by pelliott
The incorrect decision was posting a sideways picture of it. But whatever. DEAL WITH IT

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:28 pm
by Droneforbreakfast
tell me all about it. i want 5 of them just by looking.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:38 pm
by new05002

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:51 pm
by pelliott
Droneforbreakfast wrote:tell me all about it. i want 5 of them just by looking.


Okay, it's the Ibanez AR320 Artist Reissue. It has a better factory setup and playability than Gibsons even up to a few hundred dollars more expensive (I tried out multiple SGs up to twice its price and the only one that compared in feel was the new SG Standard). In fairness, this may have just been shitty Gibsons on the floor at the shop.

It plays similar to my Epi Les Paul (which I think also feels as good as or better than lower-end Gibsons) but comes stock with better pickups and is a little lighter. The body isn't quite as thick. The two small switches next to the volume/tone knobs tap the pickups between Parallel > Single Coil > Series and it's such a great stock feature that it's what settled me on the guitar today.

It's an exceptional bang for the buck. Plays and feels like such a more expensive guitar. I couldn't be happier with it so far. Just a pure rock and roll workhorse. Frankly, I don't give a shit that it was made in China.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:04 pm
by aeonrevolution
You guys ever play around with a swollen pickle? I never see it get any love on the forums. I was running my black forest into it and it was soundin pretty rad.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:12 pm
by kbit
pelliott wrote:Image

AND IT WAS THE CORRECT DECISION.

Indeed. That's one purdy guitar. Tapping options are sweet, too :thumb:

new05002 wrote:http://slomatics.bandcamp.com/album/the-future-past


Mmmmm bass.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:22 pm
by Harry_Manback
pelliott wrote:Image


Sweet! Nice choice...I've always lusted after these.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:30 pm
by Droneforbreakfast
pelliott wrote:
Droneforbreakfast wrote:tell me all about it. i want 5 of them just by looking.


Okay, it's the Ibanez AR320 Artist Reissue. It has a better factory setup and playability than Gibsons even up to a few hundred dollars more expensive (I tried out multiple SGs up to twice its price and the only one that compared in feel was the new SG Standard). In fairness, this may have just been shitty Gibsons on the floor at the shop.

It plays similar to my Epi Les Paul (which I think also feels as good as or better than lower-end Gibsons) but comes stock with better pickups and is a little lighter. The body isn't quite as thick. The two small switches next to the volume/tone knobs tap the pickups between Parallel > Single Coil > Series and it's such a great stock feature that it's what settled me on the guitar today.

It's an exceptional bang for the buck. Plays and feels like such a more expensive guitar. I couldn't be happier with it so far. Just a pure rock and roll workhorse. Frankly, I don't give a shit that it was made in China.

i really need to try one of these.

how is it in comparison to an LP, in your experience? clearer sound and slightly faster neck, i'd imagine? is it as deep-sounding as an LP or more inthe SG realm?

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:54 pm
by dazedbyday
CaptainBoxman wrote:Aaaaaaand GAS made me buy an RE-20.


I have been using my bass player's on my board and it is great. I also love how you can hold down the tap tempo to make the noise swirl.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:58 pm
by crohny
pelliott wrote:NGD! Well, I had some Guitar Center gift cards left over from the holidays... And this was $100 off today PLUS they gave me a $50 gift card with it... And I've been looking for new guitars for a while...

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AND IT WAS THE CORRECT DECISION.



Killer, I still have gas for one of these but my SG and Squier over power my urge to buy any other guitars currently.