Tall Walls wrote:
I had to stare at a clock while I was playing to get it to work, which isn't all that much fun. Your options seem to be to either play at a very strict tempo, so that your layers will work rhythmically, or play mushy swelly stuff where tempo doesn't matter.
Tall Walls wrote:
Probably the best part of the Habit was setting it to Feed and letting the contents of the memory continually recycle with changes wrought by the delay, modifiers, and Spread. I could picture it creating a nice audio environment for an art gallery. Alas, I have no art gallery.
All of this is of interest to me. For many (not all) of my uses, the Habit seems like it was custom-built for me.
Since I use pedals to improvise soundtracks to my animations, I in effect do have an art gallery at least some of the time and I frequently do stare at a clock (or the animation) while I play so that I can generate something that at least loosely corresponds to the timing of the visuals.
An unchangeable three-minute limitation is a bit of a concern, but then again, having an esthetic forged in the last century, my animations tend to be 12 minutes or longer. And so perhaps my animations could accommodate useful multiples of that 3-minute buffer?
Dandolin wrote:
i can see Habit fitting in with the sound/flow of the pieces of yours i've seen/heard moreso than a lot of other use cases
I wonder if I couldn't try to approximate some Habit quirks by routing a "listening" pedal somewhere in the chain, have it record audio but with output level all the way down and then at some random point I could turn up the level? Presto---random things from the past spring back to life (not just in 3-minute chunks).
When new pedals like this come out I also start wondering whether I shouldn't just save up for a pedal-order switcher (preferably one that allows for a fade between one pedal order to another) and just stick with the pedals I already own.
see - that's my idea too - i want to play with that buffer interaction, but I want to sorta do it with my gear bc not buying moar, but also bc i think i can maybe tailor it a bit more to my liking in regards "buffer" length etc.
still, high kudos to CBA for the idea
also, pedal order switchers/series-parallel switchers/crossovers/panners etc. for the f to the maximum win
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"In a moment of unparalleled genius, Noel Parachute headed off this potential disaster by unplugging the microphone."
Dandolin wrote:
i can see Habit fitting in with the sound/flow of the pieces of yours i've seen/heard moreso than a lot of other use cases
I wonder if I couldn't try to approximate some Habit quirks by routing a "listening" pedal somewhere in the chain, have it record audio but with output level all the way down and then at some random point I could turn up the level? Presto---random things from the past spring back to life (not just in 3-minute chunks).
When new pedals like this come out I also start wondering whether I shouldn't just save up for a pedal-order switcher (preferably one that allows for a fade between one pedal order to another) and just stick with the pedals I already own.
If you set Scan to manual you can set/adjust how much of the three minutes pass before the memory is accessed. so it could be after three minutes or almost immediately.
I'm going to be using it to produce results randomly most of the time, but it does look possible to make it much more predictable.
Seance wrote:An unchangeable three-minute limitation is a bit of a concern, but then again, having an esthetic forged in the last century, my animations tend to be 12 minutes or longer. And so perhaps my animations could accommodate useful multiples of that 3-minute buffer?
Good films! Yes, I can imagine how the Habit would work for you. The three-minute memory is really only an obvious limitation if you're doing "song collecting" as described in the Habit manual--in Collect mode, playing a three-minute stretch of music, and then once it starts looping play something complementary over that, and then use the modifiers and such to alter what you've recorded. In that case the Habit is really just an always-overdubbing looper that can only loop three-minute pieces. However, if you're doing something freeform with Collect and Feed switched on, the three-minute memory is less obvious. Yes, things might reappear in three minutes, but you can obscure that with the Spread knob or the modifiers.
My friend Trevor Adams also does scratch animations, though generally more based on found footage or things he's shot himself. I did the soundtrack for this one:
And for this one he took something off of a disc I had given him and told me about it later:
Count to 5 in Mode 2 on the vocals in the first video, EHX V256 processing an Allen Ginsberg recording in the second (with some fuzz or other on the guitar going into the V256, Carcosa maybe).
Seance wrote:
I wonder if I couldn't try to approximate some Habit quirks by routing a "listening" pedal somewhere in the chain, have it record audio but with output level all the way down and then at some random point I could turn up the level? Presto---random things from the past spring back to life (not just in 3-minute chunks).
What's out there for loopers that you can use expression to control the mix or level? Blooper Tensor probably one of those new Boss things.
Loki recently mentioned that while the long delay currently has a max length of just over 30 seconds, the unit has enough RAM that he can basically just change a line of code and extend that to "hours"
Of course, if'n yer buyin' Beebs + yer already into Habit moneez anyway...but, hey, enter the rabbit hole.
"In a moment of unparalleled genius, Noel Parachute headed off this potential disaster by unplugging the microphone."
so I do not really understand Habit auto scan mode. It seems to take snippets from memory of varying sizes and times and not clear if you can control anything other than how often it does it and how far it can go back (seems to be able to take anything from 0-scan knob setting). The confusing thing is that it does this while you are playing into the delay so I think it's replacing your (wet) input signal with audio from memory. the playback also sounds glitchy or reversed because it ends up cutting off the attack or decay, it's not like deliberately clipping a whole waveform or something. sounds cool though
manual mode however "simply" turns it into a tape loop that is anywhere from 0-180s in length. here it is very clear that the memory/buffer/tape loop comes before the delay serially (maybe this was obvious) so when you first turn the pedal on you will not get any wet signal at all until you hit that buffer time (the buffer is cleared and bypassed while pedal is bypassed by default, so it will be empty). Haven't messed with the collect or always dip switches yet, which change when the buffer erases and records, respectively. the spread knob basically gives you a second tape head you can move around. I would say in manual mode it's only as random as you want it to be-- if you turn the modifiers/feed/ramping shit etc off, it seems to just be playing back the buffer depending on your scan and spread settings just like a tape machine would.
pretty cool so far but it is hurting my brain a little tbh
Edit: actually nvm, scan just controls how far behind the buffer is on playback, “tape loop” is still 3 mins. And I think it’s only looping if you turn collect on. Otherwise the memory plays back once. Much too think about…
Tall Walls wrote:
My friend Trevor Adams also does scratch animations, though generally more based on found footage or things he's shot himself. I did the soundtrack for this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGSV-fOc1rM
And for this one he took something off of a disc I had given him and told me about it later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAKPgVhEg4
Count to 5 in Mode 2 on the vocals in the first video, EHX V256 processing an Allen Ginsberg recording in the second (with some fuzz or other on the guitar going into the V256, Carcosa maybe).
Nice! Thanks for sharing the clips.
Scratch animation is a lot of fun. I've got an assortment of needles embedded in wine corks and awls that I use for the fine-detail stuff.
lol, @ first i thought this was about 2.4" versions and i was like wat
which one interests you most? years ago i snagged a used jag that somebody'd modded with jazzmaster pickups and electronics and i actually really enjoyed that....
"In a moment of unparalleled genius, Noel Parachute headed off this potential disaster by unplugging the microphone."
for now
