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Don't do that trade. Model T's are cool...and kinda the big trend right now. Stick with your Matamp. Or, as previously stated, search out a pre mid '73 1992!

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

conky wrote:Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

Don't do it. There's a hype behind the Model T that in some circles is justified but I personally don't see it. The Matamp has a better preamp section (not just a glorified Fender Bassman), the only place where the Sunn might win out is the power amp section. The sunn is 4x6550's running in Ultra Linear, so it can do loud, very very loud.... but that's it IMO, and your band doesn't seem obsessed with loud but more with tone which I think you'll find more of in the Matamp. Also the Sunn is 40 years old, so along with that retube your gonna need a recap and who knows what else in maintenance to make it reliably gigable.

Yeah, I like loud but I like tone more. The Matamp gets plenty loud for me as is. The thing with this one is the guy says its an original 73 with about 2 hours of use since it was bought new. That makes me really weary. I don't wanna go through and retube and recap an amp that was traded for a perfectly functional amp. One day I will get my hands on a Model T just to see what all the hype is about. I'm not gonna let the Matamp go to get it though. Cash is already getting stashed away in a secret fund towards a Dunwich in the future anyway so its all good.

conky wrote:Yeah, I like loud but I like tone more. The Matamp gets plenty loud for me as is. The thing with this one is the guy says its an original 73 with about 2 hours of use since it was bought new. That makes me really weary. I don't wanna go through and retube and recap an amp that was traded for a perfectly functional amp. One day I will get my hands on a Model T just to see what all the hype is about. I'm not gonna let the Matamp go to get it though. Cash is already getting stashed away in a secret fund towards a Dunwich in the future anyway so its all good.

If the Matamp gets loud enough for you then there will be no advantage to getting the model T.

An original 73 with two hours of use? I don't buy it. Something is fishy here, and from what I understand with caps in an amp it doesnt matter if they were used or not they have a finite life span.

Sounds like your making the right decision. and I'd love to see what you come up with for a Dunwich build.

conky wrote:

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

conky wrote:Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

Don't do it. There's a hype behind the Model T that in some circles is justified but I personally don't see it. The Matamp has a better preamp section (not just a glorified Fender Bassman), the only place where the Sunn might win out is the power amp section. The sunn is 4x6550's running in Ultra Linear, so it can do loud, very very loud.... but that's it IMO, and your band doesn't seem obsessed with loud but more with tone which I think you'll find more of in the Matamp. Also the Sunn is 40 years old, so along with that retube your gonna need a recap and who knows what else in maintenance to make it reliably gigable.

Yeah, I like loud but I like tone more. The Matamp gets plenty loud for me as is. The thing with this one is the guy says its an original 73 with about 2 hours of use since it was bought new. That makes me really weary. I don't wanna go through and retube and recap an amp that was traded for a perfectly functional amp. One day I will get my hands on a Model T just to see what all the hype is about. I'm not gonna let the Matamp go to get it though. Cash is already getting stashed away in a secret fund towards a Dunwich in the future anyway so its all good.

good decision man...i think you may have regretted letting go of that matamp.

caps have a finite voltage cycle (lifespan of uses) but they also go bad from not being used for a long time. You can re-form them if they have not seen a lot of use (reform = bring up the voltage on them slowly over a long period of time) but generally speaking it should be recapped. People just dont understand that.

new05002 wrote:caps have a finite voltage cycle (lifespan of uses) but they also go bad from not being used for a long time. You can re-form them if they have not seen a lot of use (reform = bring up the voltage on them slowly over a long period of time) but generally speaking it should be recapped. People just dont understand that.

Knowledge bomb. BOOM.

christianatl wrote:

You lucky son of a bitch. Ya deserve it.

shucks

Fuck that's awesome dude! I'm sad I wasn't around when you dudes played in Minneapolis so I hope you're coming back soon!

I've been thinking about trying out the Mesa 4:88 or 8:88 as a guitar amp. My double neck has a bass E and I've been going cleaner and cleaner from my amp and my Matamp/Electric setup isn't exactly the best for pristine clean. If nothing else, running the Matamp and the Mesa or something similar to have a mix of the clean and foggy crunch.

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conky wrote:

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

conky wrote:Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

Don't do it. There's a hype behind the Model T that in some circles is justified but I personally don't see it. The Matamp has a better preamp section (not just a glorified Fender Bassman), the only place where the Sunn might win out is the power amp section. The sunn is 4x6550's running in Ultra Linear, so it can do loud, very very loud.... but that's it IMO, and your band doesn't seem obsessed with loud but more with tone which I think you'll find more of in the Matamp. Also the Sunn is 40 years old, so along with that retube your gonna need a recap and who knows what else in maintenance to make it reliably gigable.

Yeah, I like loud but I like tone more. The Matamp gets plenty loud for me as is. The thing with this one is the guy says its an original 73 with about 2 hours of use since it was bought new. That makes me really weary. I don't wanna go through and retube and recap an amp that was traded for a perfectly functional amp. One day I will get my hands on a Model T just to see what all the hype is about. I'm not gonna let the Matamp go to get it though. Cash is already getting stashed away in a secret fund towards a Dunwich in the future anyway so its all good.

i guess i actually agree that if you have fantastic relationship with the matamp, don't trade it. getting your hands on a model t would be awesome, but truth be told, i have a magical relationship with my jmp. i love that fucking thing. if someone wanted to trade me a model t for it, i wouldn't do it. i know i could sell the model t at any point and have more than enough money to buy a similar model of my old amp back, but it wouldn't be that amp. my amp sounds fucking great and i love it. i'd be a fool to trade something that i know is good for me to test out something i don't know. i know another one would be similar, but it might not be exactly the same. amps, and tube amps in particular, are individuals. often one is not the same as another of the same model. if you've got a good thing going, hold on until it seems like that amp isn't your thing anymore.

i know this totally contradicts my previous post, but i've thought about it more and my ideas are different now. i spoke too soon before.

that is all.

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