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Re: Who's gonna shoot themself in the foot? Trump or Clinton
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:15 pm
by hbombgraphics
snipelfritz wrote:Invisible Man wrote:Also, the Irish thing is poorly deployed by many, and creates a false allegory. Though, in support of your point that I don't agree with: Nazis committed to propaganda that claimed Jewish men had enormous penises; the English said the same of the Irish; Americans say this about black men still. Sexual fear/fear of miscegenation/justification for mass lynchings and dominion. This is a sidebar conversation, but it is about boners,
Now, this is interesting.

Penis politics.
Draymond Green for President!
Re: Who's gonna shoot themself in the foot? Trump or Clinton
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:36 pm
by Invisible Man
snipelfritz wrote:Penis Politics.
Band name?
Electoral Testicle?
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:41 pm
by snipelfritz
(Retiring) Republican Representative endorses Clinton.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/po ... .html?_r=0
GOP collapsing little by little. Soon people will no longer identify as members of a party, soon it will be their Pokemon Go teams.
Re: Who's gonna shoot themself in the foot? Trump or Clinton
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:17 pm
by popvulture
Inconuucl wrote::|
As for the thread title. It isn't so much about who will shoot themselves in the foot, but who will bleed out first.

Hillary would definitely lose that battle. Trump's got Cheez Whiz for blood, a slow-ooze advantage.
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:02 pm
by Chankgeez
So, assuming Trump is elected, what kinds of problems will he have with Republicans who don't support him?
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:04 pm
by snipelfritz
Serious ones:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
You'd think I'd be used to this insanity by now, but it's just to the point of utter incompetence.
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:12 pm
by Chankgeez
It's because Trump perpetually acts like he's a petulant 12 year old.
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:29 pm
by snipelfritz
Perpetual petulance.
givin' me a wordgasm here.
If he runs a campaign this poorly, imagine the country.

Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:32 pm
by Chankgeez
I can't even.

Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:37 pm
by friendship
I think most of them would capitulate to his demands because most of them are opportunists who are primarily concerned with maintaining power and status, in other words not at all different from most Americans. Those that don't succumb to populist political pressure will probably be purged in one fashion or another, maybe in covert political sabotage, maybe in overt violence; either way this is a very common theme in fascist government.
History is practically littered with emotionally and/or mentally unstable persons who were able to secure executive power over a nation and proceed to abuse that power in a way that generations following it are compelled to revisit because of its long-lasting effects on the population. 1) it's not impossible for Trump to be the president of the United States, in fact it's a legitimate possibility 2) the incredulous fears about what he might do in power is in my opinion identical or at least similar to what he would actually do; that is to say, we're watching an "impossible" campaign unfold wherein the candidate is brazenly violent and offensive to all American ideals, and it's working for him. When he's in power we will see this campaign played out in real, global policy, effecting billions of lives.
My guess is that the military won't support him--unless they do--but municipal police unions will. The GOP will be so eager to have an ostensible Republican president nominate Supreme Court justices that they won't realize or care that he elects incompetent cronies. Hilariously Obama, ever the people pleaser, would have nominated justices more simpatico with grounded Republican ideals, e.g. those with a cautious eye towards the role of Federal government.
What I find most fascinating about this campaign is that this a man who, if you’re familiar at all with the subject, pretty clearly has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. No, that’s not just some overblown shorthand for saying he’s full of himself; it’s a pathological dysfunction he “follows” to textbook degree. There’s nothing about his behavior since his campaign that’s surprised me, because every single gaffe is by rote what somebody with NPD would do. The man has a serious personality disorder; when you hear accusations about him being a sociopath and insane and all that, those are kind of reductions.. He’s not “insane” the way we generally typify that condition, but if you have any personal experience with someone that has a malignant Cluster B personality disorder, I expect you’re horrified at the idea of them being the top executive power in America.
I’m not trying to stigmatize mental illness here, please believe me. I’ve struggled with mental illness for a long time, and I would also recommend that no one elect me president or senator or governor or mayor.
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:48 pm
by John
snipelfritz wrote:Perpetual petulance.
givin' me a wordgasm here.
Perpetulance?
snipelfritz wrote:If he runs a campaign this poorly, imagine the country.

Can you imagine a president who doubles down on denial and passes the buck every time he fucks up, gets criticized or even just
questioned?
It'd be like, I dunno, Silvio Berlusconi running a country.

Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:58 pm
by popvulture
John wrote:It'd be like, I dunno, Silvio Berlusconi running a country.

Bunga Bunga parties, here we come.
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:09 am
by Iommic Pope
friendship wrote:
History is practically littered with emotionally and/or mentally unstable persons who were able to secure executive power over a nation and proceed to abuse that power in a way that generations following it are compelled to revisit because of its long-lasting effects on the population. 1) it's not impossible for Trump to be the president of the United States, in fact it's a legitimate possibility 2) the incredulous fears about what he might do in power is in my opinion identical or at least similar to what he would actually do; that is to say, we're watching an "impossible" campaign unfold wherein the candidate is brazenly violent and offensive to all American ideals, and it's working for him. When he's in power we will see this campaign played out in real, global policy, effecting billions of lives.
Which is exactly why I was imploring you all a few pages ago to actively vote against him, even if you know Hills is a different brand of awful, nobody is that awful.
That article just confirms it.
More so.
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:13 am
by Invisible Man
vidret wrote:friendship wrote:
I’m not trying to stigmatize mental illness here, please believe me. I’ve struggled with mental illness for a long time, and I would also recommend that no one elect me president or senator or governor or mayor.
at this point i'd rather you do it, actually.
Me, too. There's a more thoughtful articulation of an idea in your post than I've ever heard from Trump in the twenty five years I've been aware of him. Doesn't qualify you to run a country, but...
Also, agreed on NPD. There's someone in my family with a pretty rad cocktail of diagnoses in that vein...things don't go super well with her around.
Re: Who can hold their breath the longest? Trump or Clinton?
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:21 am
by Iommic Pope
My brother in law has massive narcissistic tendencies.
Without a word of a lie we don't talk to him anymore.
We don't feel safe.