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Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:01 pm
by Jwar
Personally I'd like to see it geared more towards active instruments but that would probably entail an overhaul of the circuit. I hate that there are so many pedals that don't jive with active basses. I feel like the second stomp could have been great but it turns to mush with actives, at least for me it did.

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:35 pm
by DRodriguez
There are various problems with active pickups for FX, impedance issues or volume are the main ones. Any super compressy effect like this will really compress the sheer volume/power of active pickups. This can be solved by turning down your volume, main side being, you loose all that volume. The impedance issue is harder to solve, because a lot of the impedance interactivity you get with pedals can't be worked to such vastly different impedances. It's just an unfortunate reality where you might have to build for one or for the other. And more people use passive pickups.

There are some solutions you could try though. Some people use a sansamp first in their chain. Some people use guitar pickup simulators. All have their benefits and drawbacks though.

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:47 pm
by Jwar
Nah. LOL. I've searched long and hard for stuff that works with active basses. I've gotten that shit down to almost a fucking science at this point.

The issue is over compression for sure and impedance in general. However, many builders have figured this out. It seems that these days I only run into issue every once in awhile. For instance, I almost never have issues with modulation pedals. In fact, they normally sound better with actives. However, some folks just cannot make them the way they need to be made for actives. It's really frustrating because I fucking hate passive bass. Guitar, passive all day baby. Bass is different for me.

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:52 pm
by Chankgeez

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:59 pm
by $harkToootth
shikawkee wrote:To him they all make the cut!! :lol:
Oh boy do I know that feeling...

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:05 pm
by Ugly Nora
Jesus, the truth that you don't want to hear is that basses sound best when they sound like basses, not wacky effect- laden nonsense. That's why pedal companies don't cater to bass players. I know it, they know it, and now you know it too. :thumb:

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:06 pm
by Jwar
Ugly Nora wrote:Jesus, the truth that you don't want to hear is that basses sound best when they sound like basses, not wacky effect- laden nonsense. That's why pedal companies don't cater to bass players. I know it, they know it, and now you know it too. :thumb:

:cry:

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:07 pm
by $harkToootth
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Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:09 pm
by $harkToootth
"Father...I beg thee...give my a ripp'in fuck'in dirt pedal that keeps my lows intact."
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Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:20 pm
by MechaGodzilla
Ugly Nora wrote:Jesus, the truth that you don't want to hear is that basses sound best when they sound like basses, not wacky effect- laden nonsense
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Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:54 pm
by BetterOffShred
Well personally I'd like to see another run for ILF doods who missed the first one. Just sayin.. I'd take one.

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:32 pm
by $harkToootth
Mr. Bregman, how much of the original Manifold Drive circuit would you say is in this? Very happy owner here. Just asking out of curiosity and A/B'ing with my own ears and deductions.

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:16 pm
by PeterBregman
Ugly Nora wrote:Jesus, the truth that you don't want to hear is that basses sound best when they sound like basses, not wacky effect- laden nonsense. That's why pedal companies don't cater to bass players. I know it, they know it, and now you know it too. :thumb:
That's not true. Active basses with lots of fx are great for sounding like Hoobastank or Incubus.

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:20 pm
by PeterBregman
$harkToootth wrote:Mr. Bregman, how much of the original Manifold Drive circuit would you say is in this? Very happy owner here. Just asking out of curiosity and A/B'ing with my own ears and deductions.
Exactly 0%. I mean, they both have resistors and capacitors and transistors in them, so 5%?

The Manifold is based on a pair of JFETs biased in a complimentary pair with a reactive load, and the HEQ1 doesn't have any JFETs in it at all.

If you want to get all abstract, I think there's probbaly some similarity in all the pedals I design because I have a specific sonic aestetic, but that's gettin pretty touchy-feely.

Re: My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:28 pm
by $harkToootth
Ohhh...so this was more or less done from scratch?