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Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:56 pm
by Chankgeez
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:29 pm
by Invisible Man
psychic vampire. wrote:
Shitpost.
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:32 pm
by popvulture
rustywire wrote:popvulture wrote:I'm sorry but she is infinitely better than Trump.
Is she great? No. Everybody knows this.
Is she more of the same? Yes. She'll most likely continue in the same direction as Obama.
Has Obama been bad? No. He's done some things that I disagree with, certainly, but he's a whole fuck ton better than goddamn W.
Is Hillary campaigning on fear, nationalism, xenophobia, racism? No.
Would the Supreme Court justices Hillary could appoint be ANYTHING like those Trump would choose? Absolutely. Fucking. Not.
They've got nothing in common. I love Bernie and wish he'd made it, but he didn't. It seems that somehow a lot of us have completely forgotten that presidential elections in our country have almost always been about choosing the lesser of two evils. You can look at that as a 100% negative thing, or you can accept that one of those evils is a LOT less evil.
Regardless, I think it'll be a four year presidency. My plan is just to suck it up, vote for Hillary and try harder next time.
K

I'm not thrilled by her at all, but certainly nowhere near as disdainful as lots (left) people I know.
I'm just having a hard time comprehending how people think that she's the same or worse than Trump. It's like you said,
*The People of Wal-Mart*. Or maybe you do think that's the better option.
Better start buying stock in Brawndo.
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:42 pm
by rustywire
It does have what plants crave...
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:52 pm
by popvulture
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:16 pm
by snipelfritz
Puppervulture up there making lots of sense. I just wish someone would try to convince me Hillary has good policies instead of lecturing me how bad Trump is. I know that, but give me one good reason to support her.
And remember the purpose of democracy is to counter tyranny, not to make good decisions.
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:20 pm
by Chankgeez
The only reason to vote Clinton is that she's a relatively better choice than Trump.

Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:47 pm
by culturejam
snipelfritz wrote:but give me one good reason to support her.
Her policies are far more likely to benefit far more people than the alternative. From a Utilitarianism perspective (do the most good for the most number of people), it's an easy choice. In my opinion and all that, of course. And that assumes you (rhetorically) give a fuck about other people's lives and well being.
I don't care for either option this time around. They both suck, but on different orders of magnitude. I liken it to being given the choice to eat a very big shit sandwich (not good) or become a human toilet for four years (really really not good). Either way you are going to eat some shit, but one is definitely worse.
I'm voting Cthulhu this year.

Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:01 pm
by snipelfritz
Chankgeez wrote:The only reason to vote Clinton is that she's a relatively better choice than Trump.

Which is exactly what I don't want to hear.
Obviously it's not your duty, it's the duty of her campaign, but they're consistently failing to argue why I should vote FOR her rather than AGAINST Trump.
Being a smart person who doesn't respond to emotional appeals can be difficult sometimes. I feel left out. Gimme dat boring policy! Woo me with numbers.
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:10 pm
by futuresailors
snipelfritz wrote:Chankgeez wrote:The only reason to vote Clinton is that she's a relatively better choice than Trump.

Which is exactly what I don't want to hear.
Obviously it's not your duty, it's the duty of her campaign, but they're consistently failing to argue why I should vote FOR her rather than AGAINST Trump.
Being a smart person who doesn't respond to emotional appeals can be difficult sometimes. I feel left out. Gimme dat boring policy! Woo me with numbers.
Vote Hilary and you get Bill back in the White House.
Assuming he receives fellatio once a week from an intern, that's 52 times a year, or 208 times over the course of her term.
Then there's the non-oral encounters, averaging 3 times a day (following each meal), 5 days a week, over the course of 4 years for a total of 1040 molestations and gropings.
That's 1320 opportunities for a fantastic debacle. Saxophone may or may not also be involved.
#VoteHilary.
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:29 pm
by popvulture
snipelfritz wrote:Chankgeez wrote:The only reason to vote Clinton is that she's a relatively better choice than Trump.

Which is exactly what I don't want to hear.
Obviously it's not your duty, it's the duty of her campaign, but they're consistently failing to argue why I should vote FOR her rather than AGAINST Trump.
Being a smart person who doesn't respond to emotional appeals can be difficult sometimes. I feel left out. Gimme dat boring policy! Woo me with numbers.
All of the shit you hear and see on TV/radio/online is just snippets and, like you said, emotional appeals. Everybody's policies are laid out pretty clearly on their sites:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
Obv you might find some of that more in the emotional plea category, but there's also plenty of factual stuff for anyone who wants to...gasp...rationally approach any of this shit.
Trump's got plenty of it on his site, too, albeit much more terrifying/depressing. I recommend checking out the bit on how he's gonna make Mexico pay for the wall!

Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:38 pm
by D.o.S.
I've said this a few times but "we're gonna turn the water on" is my favorite Trumpism of this election, I think.
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:40 pm
by popvulture
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0k2-kO_yc[/youtube]
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:46 pm
by Chankgeez
snipelfritz wrote:Chankgeez wrote:The only reason to vote Clinton is that she's a relatively better choice than Trump.

Which is exactly what I don't want to hear.
Who does wanna hear that?
Nobody wants to hear that.
popvulture wrote: I recommend checking out the bit on how he's gonna make Mexico pay for the wall!

I like how he has it broken down by day.
I also like how he's heavily defensive about Trump University.
Re: POTUS election? WTF? #betterthananyTVshowever
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:56 pm
by Faldoe
popvulture wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0k2-kO_yc[/youtube]
Lol
Also, this just came out:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM[/youtube]