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D.o.S. wrote:

Lurker13 wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:Well on the bright side you only have a month and change before any sort of health care coverage gets taken out behind the shed, Old Yeller style.

You're a real burst of sunshine, DoS.

Hopefully we won't completely regress to the bad old days when hospitals sued people for their homes.

I've been fortunate enough to have been moderately healthy (knocks on wood furiously) and pretty much always been covered as far as health insurance goes through work and my parents (thanks Obama!) but picking Tom Price to be the secretary in charge of DHHS is going to really fuck over a lot of people who can least afford to be fucked over, both physically and financially, and I'm not about that life.

You're indeed fortunate to have a dual citizenship, too. I keep looking at how surprisingly affordable apartments on the Costa del Sol are, and with the Brexit coming, I expect a lot of the English expats will be returning home, which could drive prices even lower. But alas, moving from America to an apartment in Spain is not a very realistic option for someone with a family.

Invisible Man wrote:Just talked to a friend who quit working in insurance because he couldn't live with the guilt. It's gross.

Congrats to your friend on reclaiming his humanity.

Lurker13 wrote:

aedes wrote:

kbit wrote:I hate the american health care / insurance system. I haven't even had to deal with anything that crazy yet, just the way of doing normal business is fucking stupid.

oh man i'm with you. i have to submit claims all the time for son's medical care, and it's infuriating the things the insurance companies do to reject your claim. it shouldn't be a fight.

You guys are so fucking right. I unexpectedly once had to wait four days to get my son's seizure meds refilled because of the fucking insurance company, which meant I had to pay out-of-pocket for a temporary fill. What possible excuse can there be for something like that? I also couldn't get my old insurance company to pay for the assistant surgeon for my emergency appendectomy. They just kept saying "An assistant surgeon is not required for this procedure."

This whole for-profit healthcare system is extremely immoral and needs to be replaced.

You guys shot down Obamacare, for what reason, again?

Also, people with no real accent/who flit between accents within the space of a word please, kindly fuck off.

Obamacare was a noble pursuit, but it was completely dysfunctional long before it was ever put into practice.

Accents?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxXaEh1eEwc[/youtube]

Chankgeez wrote:Obamacare was a noble pursuit, but it was completely dysfunctional long before it was ever put into practice.

Accents?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxXaEh1eEwc[/youtube]

From what I understand Obama was attempting to make your system somewhat like our Medicare system which used to be, on paper, pretty fucking close to a functioning state healthcare that covered almost everything.
Not Scando level healthcare, but enough to ensure Australians in the lower socioeconomic brackets could still get by.
Of course, with the advent of economic rationalism in the 90s, it wasn't long before our system started to resemble your system, which we are dreading because we've all heard how horrible that shit is. Every government we elect attempts to dismantle it piece by piece and widen the gap between rich and poor, but they can't can it straight up.
I was of the understanding that, at this point, any amendment to your current system would be an improvement?

Can't play that vid in my region.
Fucking content locking.

Lurker13 wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

Lurker13 wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:Well on the bright side you only have a month and change before any sort of health care coverage gets taken out behind the shed, Old Yeller style.

You're a real burst of sunshine, DoS.

Hopefully we won't completely regress to the bad old days when hospitals sued people for their homes.

I've been fortunate enough to have been moderately healthy (knocks on wood furiously) and pretty much always been covered as far as health insurance goes through work and my parents (thanks Obama!) but picking Tom Price to be the secretary in charge of DHHS is going to really fuck over a lot of people who can least afford to be fucked over, both physically and financially, and I'm not about that life.

You're indeed fortunate to have a dual citizenship, too. I keep looking at how surprisingly affordable apartments on the Costa del Sol are, and with the Brexit coming, I expect a lot of the English expats will be returning home, which could drive prices even lower. But alas, moving from America to an apartment in Spain is not a very realistic option for someone with a family.

Invisible Man wrote:Just talked to a friend who quit working in insurance because he couldn't live with the guilt. It's gross.

Congrats to your friend on reclaiming his humanity.

stayed in a really cool apartment in tarifa. everybody there speaks english due to all the people vacationing there to surf.
not that i would want to purchase a vacation home there but spain was fucking great when i was there 5-years ago.
love madrid. but if i were gonna do some small-town shit i may hit up those andalusia mountain ranges, white hill towns, awesome to drive through.

The U.S. of America is fucked in more ways than most other countries can only even ever dream of. That's what made us so great in the first place.

Iommic Pope wrote:
Can't play that vid in my region.
Fucking content locking.

Sorry. It's a vid of Tina Fey and Jimmy Fallon playing two undecided female voters from Pennsylvania.

Naturally, Jimmy lets his accent slip.

Ah cool.
Yeah I don't mind Fallon. It'd be nice to see him "let off the chain".
It'd be great to see him go under the tutelage of Colbert.
And also, bring back John Stewart.
Although Oliver is killing it so at least there's that.

Iommic Pope wrote:

Lurker13 wrote:

aedes wrote:

kbit wrote:I hate the american health care / insurance system. I haven't even had to deal with anything that crazy yet, just the way of doing normal business is fucking stupid.

oh man i'm with you. i have to submit claims all the time for son's medical care, and it's infuriating the things the insurance companies do to reject your claim. it shouldn't be a fight.

You guys are so fucking right. I unexpectedly once had to wait four days to get my son's seizure meds refilled because of the fucking insurance company, which meant I had to pay out-of-pocket for a temporary fill. What possible excuse can there be for something like that? I also couldn't get my old insurance company to pay for the assistant surgeon for my emergency appendectomy. They just kept saying "An assistant surgeon is not required for this procedure."

This whole for-profit healthcare system is extremely immoral and needs to be replaced.

You guys shot down Obamacare, for what reason, again?

Also, people with no real accent/who flit between accents within the space of a word please, kindly fuck off.

Chankgeez wrote:Obamacare was a noble pursuit, but it was completely dysfunctional long before it was ever put into practice.

^^^This, Republican propaganda ("death panels" etc.) has influenced the easily influenced, and Republican governors did their best to sabotage the implementation in their states just to try to make it look unusable. At the Federal level, the implementation was a bit of a fiasco in itself, and the Republicans played that up for all it was worth. Now costs are rising, too. My biggest problem with it is that it criminalizes people for not having insurance.

The Democrats needed Republican votes to pass it, so they negotiated away what could have been some of the best parts, like the public option. The public option would have let people buy the same insurance plan Federal employees have.

Certain aspects regarding insurance reform are great, but as you can see from the comments above, didn't go far enough.

I think there will be pressure on Trump to replace some of the more popular aspects, instead of scrapping it completely. Whether he will bow to that pressure remains to be seen.

odontophobia wrote:

Lurker13 wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

Lurker13 wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:Well on the bright side you only have a month and change before any sort of health care coverage gets taken out behind the shed, Old Yeller style.

You're a real burst of sunshine, DoS.

Hopefully we won't completely regress to the bad old days when hospitals sued people for their homes.

I've been fortunate enough to have been moderately healthy (knocks on wood furiously) and pretty much always been covered as far as health insurance goes through work and my parents (thanks Obama!) but picking Tom Price to be the secretary in charge of DHHS is going to really fuck over a lot of people who can least afford to be fucked over, both physically and financially, and I'm not about that life.

You're indeed fortunate to have a dual citizenship, too. I keep looking at how surprisingly affordable apartments on the Costa del Sol are, and with the Brexit coming, I expect a lot of the English expats will be returning home, which could drive prices even lower. But alas, moving from America to an apartment in Spain is not a very realistic option for someone with a family.

Invisible Man wrote:Just talked to a friend who quit working in insurance because he couldn't live with the guilt. It's gross.

Congrats to your friend on reclaiming his humanity.

stayed in a really cool apartment in tarifa. everybody there speaks english due to all the people vacationing there to surf.
not that i would want to purchase a vacation home there but spain was fucking great when i was there 5-years ago.
love madrid. but if i were gonna do some small-town shit i may hit up those andalusia mountain ranges, white hill towns, awesome to drive through.

Sounds awesome, I definitely want to go there, at least to visit.

Chankgeez wrote:The U.S. of America is fucked in more ways than most other countries can only even ever dream of. That's what made us so great in the first place.

That's called "American exceptionalism".

Iommic Pope wrote:From what I understand Obama was attempting to make your system somewhat like our Medicare system which used to be, on paper, pretty fucking close to a functioning state healthcare that covered almost everything.
Not Scando level healthcare, but enough to ensure Australians in the lower socioeconomic brackets could still get by.
Of course, with the advent of economic rationalism in the 90s, it wasn't long before our system started to resemble your system, which we are dreading because we've all heard how horrible that shit is. Every government we elect attempts to dismantle it piece by piece and widen the gap between rich and poor, but they can't can it straight up.
I was of the understanding that, at this point, any amendment to your current system would be an improvement?

Sort of.

The worst thing Ted Kennedy ever did that didn't involve killing someone by driving drunk was to bail on Nixon's health care proposal -- a plan that would get anyone, regardless of party, laughed out of Congress today.

Can't a fatty just get some falafel around here?

"I'm in a relationship and just looking for friends."

The fuck you doing on Tinder, stupid cunt?

It's called being horny.

like 90% of these also include "not looking for hookups"