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snipelfritz wrote:uh oh...sounds like she's preggers and hasn't told you yet. She just doesn't want your dongle poking the baby in the face.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I ALREADY HAVE 3 AND CAN'T POSSIBLY AFFORD ANOTHER ONE! oh wait...she can't have kids (not that I don't LOVE being a paw,because my boys are fucking awesome,magnet school attending,good music-listening,badasses)

FUCK YES I THINK I GOT THE FRESHMAN SEMINAR ABOUT ANDY WARHOL AND THE VALIDITY OF REPRODUCTIONS IN ART

AND IT DOESN'T EVEN START TILL 10 AM! FUCK YEAH.

unownunown wrote:FUCK YES I THINK I GOT THE FRESHMAN SEMINAR ABOUT ANDY WARHOL AND THE VALIDITY OF REPRODUCTIONS IN ART

AND IT DOESN'T EVEN START TILL 10 AM! FUCK YEAH.

I think that class is going to sink or swim based on the quality of everyone else in it. How many people?

On a kind-of-related note:

http://thequietus.com/articles/06752-mi ... -statement

when i bought the Fender thumb rest for the Jazz Bass, they included a template to show where to drill the holes in the pickguard, thus turning what would otherwise be a long involved fiddly piece of guesswork into a two or three minute piece of cake. sometimes it's the little things that make a sunny day.

http://thequietus.com/articles/06749-pias-beggars-label-riot-fire-update

This afternoon, Warp Records have also stated on their website that their entire back catalogue has been destroyed..."The biggest challenge for us is replacing Warp's extensive back catalogue spanning the last 21 years. We will replace as much of this as we can by creating new stock and replenishing where possible with stock from outside the UK. Unfortunately some releases may never be available physically again."

D.o.S. wrote:

unownunown wrote:FUCK YES I THINK I GOT THE FRESHMAN SEMINAR ABOUT ANDY WARHOL AND THE VALIDITY OF REPRODUCTIONS IN ART

AND IT DOESN'T EVEN START TILL 10 AM! FUCK YEAH.

I think that class is going to sink or swim based on the quality of everyone else in it. How many people?

On a kind-of-related note:

http://thequietus.com/articles/06752-mi ... -statement

well, the average class size at that school is like 15 and i'm assuming the seminars will have a less kids because there were like 20 choices. i hope it's awesome.

that link you posted is kinda interesting and angering. especially this. "In truth, I view the burning of that warehouse as a sort of living metaphor for what those of us who have dedicated our lives to making music now face." i feel like that dude was trying poorly to intellectualize an ignorant comment he probably shouldn't've made. the model is changing. a lot of bands are just starting to give their music out for free in addition to offering printed cds and stuff... i think eventually that will be the standard. touring and merch is where the dollars are now.

i hope eventually we'll just have people releasing free eps and mixtapes and then putting out a printed cd when the interest has been demonstrated. i think because of the insane publicity 'blog culture' offers and all the things that go along with that it's a pretty fair trade off.

See, I think that sentence hits the nail right on the head for creative people trying to make a living on their intellectual property.

Blog publicity is no way to build a career, and while the charts will always be dominated by the lowest common denominator, anyone who wants to make good music shouldn't have to starve for it.

blog publicity actually makes careers. look at pitchfork and all the bands that they've helped rise to popularity.

Pitchfork, uniquely, has the ability to make people check out music.

I doubt other blogs have the same level of influence, nor do I believe that Pitchfork really represents anything other than a signpost for people who haven't developed their own tastes.

But that's all secondary to the fact that, fundamentally, people should have to pay for art. Whether that comes from paying for records or subsidizing them in some other way I'm not sure yet.

I will say that the wheel of chance that is the blogosphere is an awfully flawed model.

it's interesting how the people who spiel about the obsolete nature of selling music are always people who like to download other people's music for free, not the people who make that music for a living and have to try to survive in an economic depression.

D.o.S. wrote:I doubt other blogs have the same level of influence, nor do I believe that Pitchfork really represents anything other than a signpost for people who haven't developed their own tastes.

i'd say tons of websites (brooklyn vegan, fader, pop manifesto, complex, xxl, etc) have lots of influence, although i'd agree that pitchfork is the biggest one.

as for the second part of that sentence, i agree but who cares as long as someone's paying?

D.o.S. wrote:See, I think that sentence hits the nail right on the head for creative people trying to make a living on their intellectual property.

Blog publicity is no way to build a career, and while the charts will always be dominated by the lowest common denominator, anyone who wants to make good music shouldn't have to starve for it.

but, does that mean that the definition of "good music" becomes set at those that are able to sell records? Art is something which should be crated out of a desire to make good art not an expectation to make money. If people then give you money for it, you should be grateful for what you get because there are plenty of people who'd take your audience for half the pay(or even nothing). How many more "hobby musicians" are there than professionals? Once you begin looking at your music as a product rather than your own gospel intended for nothing more than propagation en masse, it's no longer art and, in that sense, becomes worthless.

At least that's how I see it.

dubkitty wrote:it's interesting how the people who spiel about the obsolete nature of selling music are always people who like to download other people's music for free, not the people who make that music for a living and have to try to survive in an economic depression.

well, people don't buy music now. people haven't been buying music for a while. i'm almost certain record sales will not go up in the near future. instead of working against this, it would be a smart business move to work with it.

some people do buy music. it's just that people like you prefer to steal it, is all. and then get all self-righteous about it.

i mean, what part of "Michael Gira's record label is going out of business because people steal his recordings from pirate sites despite the fact that they know that he's an uncompromising independent artist who's lived on a shoestring for 40 years" isn't clear? what's he supposed to do, go on Social Security? go live in the van and tour even though he's over sixty? or just die? everybody's not a twentysomething punk band, you know.