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Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:37 pm
by hbombgraphics
jwar wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:
doominchains wrote:
gnomethrone wrote:
doominchains wrote: God, this country is turning so fucking perverted and upside down. I'm 26, I was born in the wrong fucking time period. Everyone's so batshit retarded.
Oh you sweet child. What time period would have better suited you?
I'm being knowingly melodramatic because every political discussion gets reduced to tranny rights or some other marginal crap.
So here's a question for you.

We have several trans members here. All of whom are much more positive contributors to discussions, both political and gear related, than you are. How is it that things that concern them are 'marginal', while your concerns -- the politically incoherent, logically slipshod musings of a piece of human refuse that, if there was any sort of order to the universe, would have been caught in a condom and discarded into a wastebasket or swallowed or cleaned up after running down someone's thigh -- are not?
It's marginal because it doesn't affect him. Ridiculous.

It's been a long time man, but I'm going to PM Tom soon about this thread if this dude doesn't stop being an asshat.
Good!!! I think most of our disagreements get sorted out with having to do that, but the obvious trolling has to stop.........at some point he will read a small section of your post, respond to it with an illogical comment....maybe even a vulgarity (if you are lucky) and this will continue....forever............it derailed from logical conversation a long time ago.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:40 pm
by hbombgraphics
jwar wrote:
vidret wrote:
jwar wrote: Most said they had no problem with burning our flag. Ok......well then get the fuck out of our country? That's my thought. I don't like either choice, but rednecks in Kansas have Confederate flags on their back windshield for God's sake, what can I do? It's not my fault they can't let go of their stupid racist ass old heritage. But the point is, it shows you what disrespect people have for the nation they live in.
I got this far before getting triggered.
Fucking burn a flag, you ought to be shot for treason.
That is fucking outright stupid. Incredibly fucking stupid. I'll burn your fucking flag right now. I'll burn all the flags. It's a piece of cloth.
Yea maybe that's a bit overboard, I know. My point was no one has respect for our country and it's a lot of shit from within. The issues we have are many, and it's sad to see the youth today being so quick to desecrate our nation.

I agree with you though, I should have phrased that different or omitted it.

It's not just youth though, when is the last time you heard someone conservative even a news professional show real respect for our president? They can't even call him President Obama.................I have very close friends who complain about kids being disrespectful all the time and then bash the president (not for real issues which I am fine with) ....it can't go both ways.....

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:41 pm
by D.o.S.
I'm a big fan of the idea that an "anarchist" can say with a straight face that the primacy of the individual is "marginal" if they're trans, though. I'm sure that's totally a well thought out notion.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:44 pm
by friendship
doominchains wrote:
friendship wrote:uh who let robbie reddit in here
robbie reddit loves fuzz too, though I don't go to reddit you need to be more inclusive. You read salon eh? :facepalm:
I'm not familiar with salon. I guess my inclusivity and tolerance stops at people who use terms like "tranny." It's not acceptable here. If your response to that is something along the lines of "PC culture is out of control, they're trying to tell me what to say and think," well, then I wish I had your quality of life, where the thing Destroying America is basic respect and dignity for human beings you don't necessarily identify with.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:46 pm
by Jwar
hbombgraphics wrote:
jwar wrote:
vidret wrote:
jwar wrote: Most said they had no problem with burning our flag. Ok......well then get the fuck out of our country? That's my thought. I don't like either choice, but rednecks in Kansas have Confederate flags on their back windshield for God's sake, what can I do? It's not my fault they can't let go of their stupid racist ass old heritage. But the point is, it shows you what disrespect people have for the nation they live in.
I got this far before getting triggered.
Fucking burn a flag, you ought to be shot for treason.
That is fucking outright stupid. Incredibly fucking stupid. I'll burn your fucking flag right now. I'll burn all the flags. It's a piece of cloth.
Yea maybe that's a bit overboard, I know. My point was no one has respect for our country and it's a lot of shit from within. The issues we have are many, and it's sad to see the youth today being so quick to desecrate our nation.

I agree with you though, I should have phrased that different or omitted it.

It's not just youth though, when is the last time you heard someone conservative even a news professional show real respect for our president? They can't even call him President Obama.................I have very close friends who complain about kids being disrespectful all the time and then bash the president (not for real issues which I am fine with) ....it can't go both ways.....
Totally agree and I've said that since day one to people. Despite me not being a huge Obama fan on a lot of things, he is our President and ought to be treated as such. It's President Obama, not whatever asshole thing you could think of to refer to him. It's sad.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:50 pm
by D.o.S.
vidret wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:I'm a big fan of the idea that an "anarchist" can say with a straight face that the primacy of the individual is "marginal" if they're trans, though. I'm sure that's totally a well thought out notion.
could you rephrase this, you lost me with primacy :lol:
So the whole thing about anarchism is individual freedom, right? Like, getting down to brass tacks, the point is that the individual has the final say over their own life. There are a million variations on that, but that's the common thread: if you're an anarchist, you believe that "person>people" to some degree (see millions of variations).

But, according to homefry's logic, things that affect the rights of trans people are "marginal". How this squares with being an anarchist (instead of, you know, an asshole) is beyond me.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:51 pm
by friendship
D.o.S. wrote:I'm a big fan of the idea that an "anarchist" can say with a straight face that the primacy of the individual is "marginal" if they're trans, though. I'm sure that's totally a well thought out notion.
It's the same kind of air-tight rationale that gives us such pearls as "xenophobia = patriotism."

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:51 pm
by doominchains
D.o.S. wrote:
doominchains wrote:
gnomethrone wrote:
doominchains wrote: God, this country is turning so fucking perverted and upside down. I'm 26, I was born in the wrong fucking time period. Everyone's so batshit retarded.
Oh you sweet child. What time period would have better suited you?
I'm being knowingly melodramatic because every political discussion gets reduced to tranny rights or some other marginal crap.
So here's a question for you.

We have several trans members here. All of whom are much more positive contributors to discussions, both political and gear related, than you are. How is it that things that concern them are 'marginal', while your concerns -- the politically incoherent, logically slipshod musings of a piece of human refuse that, if there was any sort of order to the universe, would have been caught in a condom and discarded into a wastebasket or swallowed or cleaned up after running down someone's thigh -- are not?
Trans people don't bother me all that much, except they are alarmingly suicidal.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /31626633/

To answer your question though, people are shitty and end up in the dirt wastebasket either way. We're all the same except some are more prone to violence (e.g. pelting with bricks) and some are more prone to build civilizations that would even enable rights for trannies. Duh

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:56 pm
by D.o.S.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q3qPuF7FUc[/youtube]

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:05 pm
by doominchains
jwar wrote:Ahh it feel nice not to be the one getting everyone all pissy here for once. :)

That being said. Man, oh man. You're comments make me LOL harder than I have in awhile.

Firstly at 26 you seem to have the world figured out better than most. I'm only 34 but I haven't figured out half of the shit you seem to have a handle on so major kudos sir.

Second, we do have it great here in the United States and a lot of folks to take that for granted and want to be all up in arms about stupid fucking shit that makes no goddamn sense. It reminds me of a status one of my cousins posted on Facebook the other day. He asked which would bother you more. Someone flying a Confederate flag or burning an American Flag. Most said they had no problem with burning our flag. Ok......well then get the fuck out of our country? That's my thought. I don't like either choice, but rednecks in Kansas have Confederate flags on their back windshield for God's sake, what can I do? It's not my fault they can't let go of their stupid racist ass old heritage. But the point is, it shows you what disrespect people have for the nation they live in. Fucking burn a flag, you ought to be kicked in the ball sack.

Third. There is NO good choice in this election periods, end of fucking story. Donald Trump is a bloated windbag who doesn't know the first thing about being Presidential. He's a liar and one of the worst people I've seen in policies and pretty much all around dick head. Hillary Clinton is an atrocious human being. She gets away with murder (literally), and has been a career criminal in politics since she got into them.

So we have a lying killer or a crazy man. Who the fuck would you vote for? I say, fuck the status quo. I'm voting third party. I have to stand for what I believe in regardless of what the actual outcome is. I could vote for one or the other, but they both are awful humans and I feel like I'm doing myself and the country a disservice by voting for them. Now one will still win, I have no grand delusions that my vote even fucking matters. But I have principals. If there was a lesser of two evils, then I'd vote for that person, but there isn't.

Hillary is far more qualified, I will give her that. Trump would not know what to do period. He has not a clue. He'd have to outsource everything just to not continue looking like a moron to the rest of the world and his own people.

Here's the important take away though in my opinion.

Immigration is an issue, but the issue is not one that many are thinking. A lot think the issue is we are letting drug dealers in murders in. Well guess what? The CIA has been working with drug cartels to their advantages for as long as they've existed, so it's our government doing it and I doubt that will change. The real issue is a money. We are a society corrupted by greed and self preservation. Letting people in is not a big issue, make the process easier for them. So what if all the Mexican's want to be here? So what if the Muslims do? So what if the Indians do? Who am I to say no?? We took this country by force, it is not ours to begin with. This is not a country run by Adolf Hilter, it's not supposed to be one where we segregate and keep people away. We are past all that.

I refer you to the Statue of Liberty.

New Colossus

"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

When my Grand Father was in the military he went to Germany to fight for the freedom of the Jews and stop the atrociousness of what was happening. When Ronald Reagan was in office he demanded that the Berlin Wall be torn down. Etc...etc. We are a nation of hope. One that helps those in need with open arms. We are not a nation of people that turn our fucking backs on people, which is what Trump wants. FUCK TRUMP.
The New Colossus wasn't a poem handed down by God. It was written by a person. I agree with some of what you said there but I kind of think the opposite about my great-grandpa fighting in WWII. What did he even fight for if we're going to later use terms like xenophobic to deride the people already here who want autonomy and sovereignty?

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:07 pm
by D.o.S.
Let it be known: the word xenophobic was invented after World War II.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:07 pm
by doominchains
D.o.S. wrote:I'm a big fan of the idea that an "anarchist" can say with a straight face that the primacy of the individual is "marginal" if they're trans, though. I'm sure that's totally a well thought out notion.
I never said I'm an anarchist. psychic vampire said he's one though.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:10 pm
by D.o.S.
You know PV is a he, eh?

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:12 pm
by doominchains
D.o.S. wrote:Let it be known: the word xenophobic was invented after World War II.
You win D.o.S., I made a typographical error.

Re: Political doodoo talk for me & you: all politics = lamen

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:13 pm
by doominchains
D.o.S. wrote:You know PV is a he, eh?
psychic vampire said it's one. Happy?