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SPACERITUAL wrote:

Fluffytime wrote:
Just to prove that I am no black metal conservative/fascist, I play bass on this shit:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCFEETZX3SY[/youtube]

Not exactly "conservative BM" if you ask me. Deafhaven still suck though.

Nobody could accuse DHG of being conservative. Not that you were on that album but 666 International was a very important release for me, also bringing me back to my previous question of why the fuck everyone thinks black metal has to only sound like darkthrone.....Does no-one remember the early 2000s? Did no-one listen to the sham mirrors?

666 was fucking insane. Not to mention the Satanic Art EP. Traces Of Reality is and will always be one of the greatest extreme metal songs ever. Pure genius.

And no, BM certainly does not have to sound like Darkthrone. Here, have some Ved Buens Ende:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc0R-DeloBg[/youtube]

I mean, come the fuck on.

The VBE guy is the current DHG vocalist right?

And just for the record; I fucking love Darkthrone.

Also this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Ubctz2ywA[/youtube]

Sweet baby Jesus.

SPACERITUAL wrote:The VBE guy is the current DHG vocalist right?

Yeah, Vicotnik. Ahldran was back for the new album and did some gigs, but he's out again. No idea why, I quit after we did a European tour with him and recorded A Umbra Omega. So I have no idea what they're doing at this point. Their drummer lives just down the street from me and we hang out from time to time, but we just get fucked up together and rarely talk about band stuff.

SPACERITUAL wrote:The VBE guy is the current DHG vocalist right?

Oh, and have you heard "VBE 2.0"? Virus? Shit is awesome.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPKxmHTJMJ8[/youtube]

That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.

Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).

D.o.S. wrote:That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.

Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).

I totally get what you're saying. But the Norwegian nineties BM scene was much more diverse than what people might think. Ulver is just one example (and a damn good one at that). A part of me really hates how the whole church-burning/murder thing just overshadowed all the actual creativity that was going on back then. Those were certainly interesting times.

Fuck the mainstream media.

Yeah mean it wasn't all frostbitten kvlt Satan-worshipping devil orgy music? I'VE BEEN LIED TO!

Like this one from 96, with Garm from Ulver on vocals and Hellhammer on drums.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwwkBlGW46Q[/youtube]

So fucking good.

Inconuucl wrote:Yeah mean it wasn't all frostbitten kvlt Satan-worshipping devil orgy music? I'VE BEEN LIED TO!

DEAL WITH IT! HAIL SANTA!

Fluffytime wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.

Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).

I totally get what you're saying. But the Norwegian nineties BM scene was much more diverse than what people might think. Ulver is just one example (and a damn good one at that). A part of me really hates how the whole church-burning/murder thing just overshadowed all the actual creativity that was going on back then. Those were certainly interesting times.

Fuck the mainstream media.

Yeah it's definitely a bummer A) because the motives are a narrative-driven oversimplification -- Eiwind and I talked about this a bit while I was staying with him but it definitely has many more layers than we touched on as far as how it's going to go down according to whatever music nerds sit down and figure it out -- and B) because it kind of cheapens/Marilyn Manson-izes the regional 'extreme' musical output from that time period.

You should have come hung out for ILFEU dude! (even though you joined after it was done)

and somehow this is getting more interesting than the blackmetal thread.. wf?

D.o.S. wrote:

Fluffytime wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.

Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).

I totally get what you're saying. But the Norwegian nineties BM scene was much more diverse than what people might think. Ulver is just one example (and a damn good one at that). A part of me really hates how the whole church-burning/murder thing just overshadowed all the actual creativity that was going on back then. Those were certainly interesting times.

Fuck the mainstream media.

Yeah it's definitely a bummer A) because the motives are a narrative-driven oversimplification -- Eiwind and I talked about this a bit while I was staying with him but it definitely has many more layers than we touched on as far as how it's going to go down according to whatever music nerds sit down and figure it out -- and B) because it kind of cheapens/Marilyn Manson-izes the regional 'extreme' musical output from that time period.

You should have come hung out for ILFEU dude! (even though you joined after it was done)

Sign me up for ILFEU2. Shit needs to happen.

Also, "Marilyn Manson-izes"? Love it. Well said.

Blackened Soul wrote:and somehow this is getting more interesting than the blackmetal thread.. wf?

This is the blackmetal thread now. Am I wrong?

Fluffytime wrote:

Blackened Soul wrote:and somehow this is getting more interesting than the blackmetal thread.. wf?

This is the blackmetal thread now. Am I wrong?

I can live with 2, I guess