Not exactly "conservative BM" if you ask me. Deafhaven still suck though.
Nobody could accuse DHG of being conservative. Not that you were on that album but 666 International was a very important release for me, also bringing me back to my previous question of why the fuck everyone thinks black metal has to only sound like darkthrone.....Does no-one remember the early 2000s? Did no-one listen to the sham mirrors?
666 was fucking insane. Not to mention the Satanic Art EP. Traces Of Reality is and will always be one of the greatest extreme metal songs ever. Pure genius.
And no, BM certainly does not have to sound like Darkthrone. Here, have some Ved Buens Ende:
SPACERITUAL wrote:The VBE guy is the current DHG vocalist right?
Yeah, Vicotnik. Ahldran was back for the new album and did some gigs, but he's out again. No idea why, I quit after we did a European tour with him and recorded A Umbra Omega. So I have no idea what they're doing at this point. Their drummer lives just down the street from me and we hang out from time to time, but we just get fucked up together and rarely talk about band stuff.
That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.
Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).
D.o.S. wrote:That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.
Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).
I totally get what you're saying. But the Norwegian nineties BM scene was much more diverse than what people might think. Ulver is just one example (and a damn good one at that). A part of me really hates how the whole church-burning/murder thing just overshadowed all the actual creativity that was going on back then. Those were certainly interesting times.
Chankgeez wrote:
We should have a game show à la Name That Tune
Inconuucl: I can shoegaze that tune with 5 pedals.
other contestant: I can shoegaze that tune with 4 pedals.
Inconuucl: I can shoegaze that tune with 3 pedals.
other contestant: OK, shoegaze that tune!
Inconuucl:
D.o.S. wrote:That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.
Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).
I totally get what you're saying. But the Norwegian nineties BM scene was much more diverse than what people might think. Ulver is just one example (and a damn good one at that). A part of me really hates how the whole church-burning/murder thing just overshadowed all the actual creativity that was going on back then. Those were certainly interesting times.
Fuck the mainstream media.
Yeah it's definitely a bummer A) because the motives are a narrative-driven oversimplification -- Eiwind and I talked about this a bit while I was staying with him but it definitely has many more layers than we touched on as far as how it's going to go down according to whatever music nerds sit down and figure it out -- and B) because it kind of cheapens/Marilyn Manson-izes the regional 'extreme' musical output from that time period.
You should have come hung out for ILFEU dude! (even though you joined after it was done)
D.o.S. wrote:That Ulver record, which I just listened to for the first time the other day, is pretty phenomenal. It definitely broadened my viewpoint of what was happening in that general geographic area, which is sort of silly on my end -- I know not every DC hardcore band sounded like minor threat, why would I assume that every NBM record sounded like the ones I already knew? -- but I think is one of those built in pigeonholes that comes with the territory.
Sadly I also think that's a byproduct of the mythos surrounding the church-burning bands: you're either in/associated with one of those bands, which gives you mad cred, or you're, uh, a bad Satryicon (no offense to them but they're the most 'fringe' band I can think of in that sense).
I totally get what you're saying. But the Norwegian nineties BM scene was much more diverse than what people might think. Ulver is just one example (and a damn good one at that). A part of me really hates how the whole church-burning/murder thing just overshadowed all the actual creativity that was going on back then. Those were certainly interesting times.
Fuck the mainstream media.
Yeah it's definitely a bummer A) because the motives are a narrative-driven oversimplification -- Eiwind and I talked about this a bit while I was staying with him but it definitely has many more layers than we touched on as far as how it's going to go down according to whatever music nerds sit down and figure it out -- and B) because it kind of cheapens/Marilyn Manson-izes the regional 'extreme' musical output from that time period.
You should have come hung out for ILFEU dude! (even though you joined after it was done)
