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Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:24 am
by madmax1012
tim wrote:I haven't read through all 13 pages of this thread, so this may or may not have been mentioned: "boutique" builders (read: one guy in his garage who learned how to solder a week ago) putting $5.72 worth of parts into a Tubescreamer clone with an hideous box and selling it for $300. Shit needs to stop NOW.
I'm sure a variation of this concept has made it's way into the conversation, however I completely agree and this should be seen by all.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:45 am
by hbombgraphics
madmax1012 wrote:tim wrote:I haven't read through all 13 pages of this thread, so this may or may not have been mentioned: "boutique" builders (read: one guy in his garage who learned how to solder a week ago) putting $5.72 worth of parts into a Tubescreamer clone with an hideous box and selling it for $300. Shit needs to stop NOW.
I'm sure a variation of this concept has made it's way into the conversation, however I completely agree and this should be seen by all.
+1
Also looking through the last few pages you see alot about unclear or unlabeled knobs and I completely agree. The worst example of this ever was the keeley comp
if you are going to put a blinding LED on a pedal don't make it silver with silver knobs That thing made my eyes hurt
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:09 pm
by Officer Bukowski
The Tube Screamer I built cost me like $50 but yeah I hear what you're saying we definitely don't need more Tube Screamers especially at jacked up "boutique" prices. Whatever.. Someone's gotta take TGP's money..
The blinding LED thing though.. That really bothers me. I like them pretty bright but when they have like a visible beam coming out of them and they're frying your retinas that's just annoying.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:10 pm
by zRobertez
hbombgraphics wrote:madmax1012 wrote:tim wrote:I haven't read through all 13 pages of this thread, so this may or may not have been mentioned: "boutique" builders (read: one guy in his garage who learned how to solder a week ago) putting $5.72 worth of parts into a Tubescreamer clone with an hideous box and selling it for $300. Shit needs to stop NOW.
I'm sure a variation of this concept has made it's way into the conversation, however I completely agree and this should be seen by all.
+1
Also looking through the last few pages you see alot about unclear or unlabeled knobs and I completely agree. The worst example of this ever was the keeley comp
if you are going to put a blinding LED on a pedal don't make it silver with silver knobs That thing made my eyes hurt
I kinda hate all the blinding LEDs. I don't see the point of making them so bright. If you can't tell it's on, then something's wrong! Except, I thought the bright LED on my Ghost Echo was awesome. It wasn't too bright either, it just lit up my bedroom a little at night! Yeah, but usually I put a little tape or something over the really bright ones.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:10 pm
by madmax1012
this might be trivial, but I've also never understood chrome pedals that insure that I'll be blind at the end of the night.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:57 pm
by mathias
I like bright LEDs

compared to the anemic red LEDs of days past.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:59 pm
by greyscales
After using an Ibanez TS-9 Tubescreamer for a couple years, your complaints about bright LEDs start to go away. Even standing above those things you can't tell when the light is on.
That said I try to dim mine so they aren't visible from a mile away.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:24 pm
by ryan summit
yeah my ad9 light is hardly visible in the daytime
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Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:14 am
by Gearmond
i could use the Sea Machine as a lighthouse
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:40 am
by Mudfuzz
another...
Going cheap and calling in a innovation, update or better... yes yes yes I know this is everywhere but this is why I HATE! boss... Boss use to make some fucking boss bosses but then they started to go cheap and lame like the oc3 vs oc2.... and the fuzz thing... HOW THE FUCK DO YOU REPLACE THE HYPERFUZZ WITH A CHEAP BAD SOUNDED MODELING FUZZ PEDAL? HOW?
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:11 am
by Glenouille
phantasmagorovich wrote:madmax1012 wrote:Mudfuzz wrote:Doctor X wrote:not just the 9V on the side, but the 9V on the side right next to the cable input
and not just on the side, right next to the cable input, but also on the side nearest the player!
Yes

it's like they are saying "hey person that uses right angled cables, fuck you!"
i got my first pedal that had this a few months ago. i plugged everything in and i was like "alright seriously, who the fuck thought this was a good idea?!?"
Only gripe I have with the Demo Tape Fuzz. grngr
I had not experienced this until I got the below recently...Annoying.

Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:03 am
by Jwar
Mudfuzz wrote:another...
Going cheap and calling in a innovation, update or better... yes yes yes I know this is everywhere but this is why I HATE! boss... Boss use to make some fucking boss bosses but then they started to go cheap and lame like the oc3 vs oc2.... and the fuzz thing... HOW THE FUCK DO YOU REPLACE THE HYPERFUZZ WITH A CHEAP BAD SOUNDED MODELING FUZZ PEDAL? HOW?
Agreed. Their new versions are not always improvements. The BF-3 is the one exception I know of, but that's just IMO. I like the extra settings and such on it.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:32 am
by bigchiefbc
Mudfuzz wrote:another...
Going cheap and calling in a innovation, update or better... yes yes yes I know this is everywhere but this is why I HATE! boss... Boss use to make some fucking boss bosses but then they started to go cheap and lame like the oc3 vs oc2.... and the fuzz thing... HOW THE FUCK DO YOU REPLACE THE HYPERFUZZ WITH A CHEAP BAD SOUNDED MODELING FUZZ PEDAL? HOW?
I actually disagree with you on the OC-2 vs OC-3. Not that I prefer the 3 over the 2, I don't. But the OC-3 has a reason for existing. They went digital because they wanted to go polyphonic to keep up with the POG, and you can't do that analog. And you can't fit the analog OC-2 circuit and the digital polyphony circuit in one small box, so they had to go all digital. That said, I wish they had released it on its own as a polyphonic octaver and kept the OC-2 in production alongside it.
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:39 am
by hbombgraphics
bigchiefbc wrote:Mudfuzz wrote:another...
Going cheap and calling in a innovation, update or better... yes yes yes I know this is everywhere but this is why I HATE! boss... Boss use to make some fucking boss bosses but then they started to go cheap and lame like the oc3 vs oc2.... and the fuzz thing... HOW THE FUCK DO YOU REPLACE THE HYPERFUZZ WITH A CHEAP BAD SOUNDED MODELING FUZZ PEDAL? HOW?
I actually disagree with you on the OC-2 vs OC-3. Not that I prefer the 3 over the 2, I don't. But the OC-3 has a reason for existing. They went digital because they wanted to go polyphonic to keep up with the POG, and you can't do that analog. And you can't fit the analog OC-2 circuit and the digital polyphony circuit in one small box, so they had to go all digital. That said, I wish they had released it on its own as a polyphonic octaver and kept the OC-2 in production alongside it.
yeah I have owned both and like both but they are completely different animals
Wish the OC2 still existed,
I do think the PH3 is a pretty sweet pedal
but boss does obsolete models faster than you would like without any thought to if the new one is actually better
Re: Pedal trends that need to go away
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:57 pm
by D.o.S.
Pedals that don't take batteries.
Yeah, I said it.