Re: Bloodless Fuzz-Coup for me & you: U.S. politics = lamene
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:22 pm
What about other cultures that just clash with our foreign policy?
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You misspelled milquetoast dummy!Mudfuzz wrote:doominchains wrote:
just be thankful I bothered and learn how to quote attachments and the dynamics of dogedoominchains wrote:You misspelled milquetoast dummy!Mudfuzz wrote:doominchains wrote:
Sure, if you subscribe to the mildly antiquated views of, say, a Samuel Huntington. But, of course, those sorts of theories are over 20 years old at that point, and a lot of people a lot smarter than I am have spent tons of time advocating and poking holes in the idea. I kind of go back and forth on it, myself.Faldoe wrote:snipelfritz wrote:Yes, this is what I meant. People who may actually identify with Mitt Romney. Those who believe in trickle down economics, not because they're stupid, but because they know it works...for them. (The quotation marks were referencing the fact that I think conservativism is by definition xenophobic and the Trumplings are truly more conservative than those who claim the term...but that's another discussion entirely)D.o.S. wrote:Think William F. Buckley/Yuppies/etc. The boatshoes and tax breaks set.
"Conservatism (or conservativism) is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change."
I can see how people would think conservatism means opposition to different cultures or fear of them and their possible influence but from what I've heard and understand from Conservatives that I don't think are idiots, I there is a difference between being concerned about people from different cultures that clash with ( or oppose) our Constitutional rights and those that just don't want "foreigners" in their country.
The former is a reasonable concern.
Our foreign policy hasn't been great since Vietnam. That doesn't have much to do with why Trump is the Republican nominee though or even why a person would lean Republican this election cycle.Chankgeez wrote:What about other cultures that just clash with our foreign policy?
I agree with D.o.S. also, we've already done this in this threadD.o.S. wrote:Sure, if you subscribe to the mildly antiquated views of, say, a Samuel Huntington. But, of course, those sorts of theories are over 20 years old at that point, and a lot of people a lot smarter than I am have spent tons of time advocating and poking holes in the idea. I kind of go back and forth on it, myself.Faldoe wrote:snipelfritz wrote:Yes, this is what I meant. People who may actually identify with Mitt Romney. Those who believe in trickle down economics, not because they're stupid, but because they know it works...for them. (The quotation marks were referencing the fact that I think conservativism is by definition xenophobic and the Trumplings are truly more conservative than those who claim the term...but that's another discussion entirely)D.o.S. wrote:Think William F. Buckley/Yuppies/etc. The boatshoes and tax breaks set.
"Conservatism (or conservativism) is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change."
I can see how people would think conservatism means opposition to different cultures or fear of them and their possible influence but from what I've heard and understand from Conservatives that I don't think are idiots, I there is a difference between being concerned about people from different cultures that clash with ( or oppose) our Constitutional rights and those that just don't want "foreigners" in their country.
The former is a reasonable concern.
I also think you're positing this as a binary when, IMO, it's much more of a gradient.
Sophistry! You misspelled milquetoast, face it.Mudfuzz wrote:just be thankful I bothered and learn how to quote attachments and the dynamics of dogedoominchains wrote:You misspelled milquetoast dummy!Mudfuzz wrote:doominchains wrote:
I think it goes back much farther than that, but, you're right, Trump's the Republican nominee because we, as a nation, watch too much TV.doominchains wrote:Our foreign policy hasn't been great since Vietnam. That doesn't have much to do with why Trump is the Republican nominee though or even why a person would lean Republican this election cycle.Chankgeez wrote:What about other cultures that just clash with our foreign policy?
doominchains wrote:Sophistry! You misspelled milquetoast, face it.Mudfuzz wrote:just be thankful I bothered and learn how to quote attachments and the dynamics of dogedoominchains wrote:You misspelled milquetoast dummy!Mudfuzz wrote:doominchains wrote:
Of course I'm a noob. Sorry to break up the libtard circle jerk.
Paul Ryan is on your side, you just don't know. He's a RINO.
Conservatives are like everyone else. They just don't cry as loudly.Iommic Pope wrote:Just for clarification, as someone who views uS class warfare from an outsider perspective, snip, can you please clarify what you mean by "educated 'conservative'"?
Honest question, as I think we have a similar demographic down here but I'd like to know what it is in your context.
I never said I was pro Trump. But the Pied Piper seems to be a Democrat.D.o.S. wrote:I kind of like the idea that Hilary, who is obviously privy to specific interests, is somehow more emblematic of an oligarch than Trump... who is, you know, an actual oligarch.doominchains wrote:Hillary's been chosen by our overlords and it's as if this country doesn't even have sovereignty anymore.
And I prefer Johnny Thunders.