The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[D.o.S.]

Gandolf thinks your distressed Sabbath patch is super lame, too.

It's not the wizards, it's the pandering and the posturing.

Pandering and Posturing in the doom community?!?! You sir need to share what ever it is your on.

If you want some of my cold, uh, feel free. It sucks.

[Bossk]

I also use those tiny jazz picks sometimes. Mostly experimental. I wanted to try something new but i have somewhat large thumbs so its kind of an awkward fit.

Furthermore metalheads are typically silly.

[Bossk]

And so is soccer.

[Ancient Astronaught]

If you want some of my cold, uh, feel free. It sucks.

I'm good thanks for offering!

And for reference the only vest I own... is black cotton.... and I'm currently wearing it....

[D.o.S.]

I'm too core for vests.

[samzadgan]

And so is soccer.

you mean Football…right?

On Thrash Metal…i grew up listening to New Wave of British Metal and Thrash Metal…those two took me from about 10 years old all the way to about 18…then it was Death Metal…then Doom…in my older years i've discovered that although Fast is good…Slow and Hard is better

On vests…i have a denim vest…but its way too old and stinky to wear anymore…i just keep it black…'cause black is cool

[Kacey Y]

Thrash metal was the first metal I ever listened to, in the late 80's/early 90's.

[CaptainBoxman]

I own so much denim

[HeavyXIII]

I never really got into thrash either.

I use the jazz I'm XL picks.

I've used more different types of picks than I care to recount, but these are the kind that I'm using currently. They don't chirp on recordings like the thicker picks I used to use.

[AngryGoldfish]

*dons genre-Nazi hat*

It's on!



Isn't EyehateGod and Crowbar just plain Sludge? I mean, the word 'post' imposes 'after', but Crowbar was one of the pioneering bands to develop that sludgy sound that Neurosis and ISIS fed off.

I see you're using an old style, I wondered where you'd learned it from
You know very well, it's yours too.

Right. Maybe I misread. Sludge=/= post-metal. The guitar tones are pretty similar, but the aesthetic behind a band like Crowbar and a band like Neurosis is very different. Generally speaking, Crowbar, EHG, etc. and the rest of the NOLA bands are what I consider sludge -- while some of the Bay Area bands like Neurosis seem to be more tied in to crust and hardcore bands like Amebix. Both genres are basically playing what is essentially slowed down Hardcore, but the southern influences and humid abrasiveness that most 'real' sludge has seem to be a uniquely Southern thing. On the flip side, bands like Isis and Neurosis are much 'colder' sounding. (You could do a whole dissectional on Loud and Slow Music by region over the last 30 years, and I think it would be really illuminating, at least as far as the US continent is concerned)

The other thing is that, chronologically speaking, Neurosis are actually older than "sludge" as a genre, which takes most of its cues from Melvins, Flipper, and the slow-and-low Pacific Northwest and My War era Black Flag. Neurosis have been together since like '85, so I'm not sure it's fair to them to suggest that they fed off the southern scene when they were already pretty heavily into Amebix and other crust-y things before any of those southern bands really got going.

Anyway, post-sludge is just an offhand way for me to say Rwake sound like this but write songs like Isis. I don't think it's a real genre at all .

That's true, Neurosis have been around for a long, long time. Their early sound was definitely more hardcore than their later work, which was atmospherically different and more 'technical', for want a better word, which is part of what I consider Post-Metal to be, Sludge and Progressive Metal. Even though I think you're right, that's what I'm referring to when I say Neurosis fed off that sound; they combined their integrity as 'Southern Sludgers' with what is quite clearly a part of their personality as individuals and love of Prog Rock: philosophical meanderings transplanted into slow, heavy guitar music.

Crowbar, EyeHateGod are Sludge through-and-through. They have elements of other sounds like Doom, Crust and Hardcore, but that's the Sludge sound. With that said, most also consider Melvins a Sludge band, but they sound little like Crowbar, so it's a hard one to distinguish and title.

Which Rwake did you get?

Voices of Omens. I've listened to Rest a bunch of times on Bandcamp and know I like it, but you guys were talking up VoO so strongly I figured I'd go with that. I'm sure I'll be picking up a copy of Rest sometime soon as well.

I personally prefer Rest.

Got my V2 (used to be SpaceFlunky's) back from my tech today, so excited! He went through it methodically reflowing solder, changing caps, adding new toggles, installing new KT88s, adjusting bias, fixing the reverb jack, adding new (vintage correct) pilot lights, updating 3-prong plug, disconnecting polarity "death cap", and so on and so on. Nothing major but it needed a check up and it's 100% ready for the long haul now.

A good friend of mine retolexed the headshell and replaced all hardware and grill cloth. Then a local screen printer redid the control panel for me since most of the labeling worn off years ago and had since been replaced by marker scrawls. Couldn't find a good pic or pdf file anywhere of that V2 control plate graphic so he used my buddy's V4 as an example and created one from scratch using some graphic design program. Turned out super nice!

Here's a blurry ass photo of the before...



And after...

So awesome!!! Y'all did a phenomenal job.

[AngryGoldfish]

So what kind of guitar picks does everyone use?

V-Picks, usually, or just my fingers. They don't last very long, but they sound and feel as close to what I'm looking for. There are quite companies I have yet to try.

This is the one I'm using at the moment—it's pretty thick. I'm very happy with it, but I'm looking for the same feel and sound in an opaque material that doesn't wear so easily.

http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/p/915983 ... -plectrum/

[spawnofthesith]

^Pretty spot on analysis as to how I characterized
those genres as well.

I think I need an intervention, I got a eqd terminal last week, I have an eqd zap machine arriving tomorrow, and I just ordered an eqd sound shank

[doctorpoopenstein420]

Get a different cheap Boss 4-knob pedal, take off the knobs and paint 'em?

Could be doooope.

Realistically, I don't need knobs to tell me everything's turned to ten anyway. I guess I could worry about it more if I ever decide to flip it.

[pelliott]

I've had the dang pedal for a while and just now the aesthetics started to matter.

[doctorpoopenstein420]

It really does bother me a little being the only guy on my board lookin all naked and knobless. And I dunno, those small bear ones just won't ever look as good as the originals. The struggle, man.