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Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:46 pm
by Dandolin
yeah, it kinda sucks - they were a good thing, and I think they were kinda under-appreciated, but they also seemed to sell reasonably well. People are jaded. The market is so full of choices right now, and I think the kind of plus ones Moog was offering in their pedals didn't flash and glint as much as some other offerings, although even in the slimmed down minifoogers the features were really smart.

Even today the tools over on TGP are slagging the MF Boost and they have no idea how to use the thing, lol. "Jesus, this boost only boosts 10db, what good is that? I need a boost that pumps out 30dbs worth or nothing! Oh? You can boost over 20db if you use an expression pedal to control the boost level? What good is that? Who has room on their board for an expression pedal? Oh, you can get the full level of boost if you stick a dummy plug in the expression jack? Who has time for that? They didn't even include a dummy jack in the box! You say usually 6db of boost is enough to get your solo to stand out in a competent band's mix? I'm not in a band - I just want my AC15 to sound like a half stack.... Also can anyone tell me why I keep frying equipment? And why doesn't this Univibe knockoff sound like a flanger? They told me on TGP it was basically a flanger!"
:oldrant: :oldrant: :oldrant:

I guess the powers that be at Moog decided they wanted to devote their resources towards more of what they saw as their core business model. It couldn't have had anything to do with the customer base in the pedal market. :/

So the pedals were nice, but the inflated collectors market prices are pure blarghlejabber.

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:51 am
by The Eristic
The Boost is probably my favorite of the three Minis I have in terms of regular use. It's almost more akin to a colorful compressor than a traditional guitar boost pedal. It does need the dummy plug/exp pedal badly, though. I feel like the whole "expanded specs w/ exp jack" thing was just a scheme to sell more expression pedals, but kinda backfired since a lot of the people interested in the Minis were not the same crowd as the one into the big bois and in the know 'bout CV, so many just felt like something was missing or too limited or just didn't quite behave like other stuff.

I got the delay through Sweetwater below cost just before they blew them out officially, they apparently had stocked literally thousands of them of them, but they were too confusing/idiosyncratic for people to handle. The rep actually recommended against the MF Delay because it was super dark and didn't have any features like tap tempo. There are waaaaay more of them out there than the market seems to realize, though. There may even be piles of them still sitting around in warehouses, because some of the big retailers never had clearances (though I guess they could've wholesaled them off behind the scenes). Same rep said they had been whittling them down with smaller sales before they hit an inventory threshold where clearance pricing was permitted.

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:43 am
by Pepe
Dandolin wrote:Even today the tools over on TGP are slagging the MF Boost and they have no idea how to use the thing, lol. "Jesus, this boost only boosts 10db, what good is that? I need a boost that pumps out 30dbs worth or nothing! Oh? You can boost over 20db if you use an expression pedal to control the boost level? What good is that? Who has room on their board for an expression pedal? Oh, you can get the full level of boost if you stick a dummy plug in the expression jack? Who has time for that? They didn't even include a dummy jack in the box! You say usually 6db of boost is enough to get your solo to stand out in a competent band's mix? I'm not in a band - I just want my AC15 to sound like a half stack.... Also can anyone tell me why I keep frying equipment? And why doesn't this Univibe knockoff sound like a flanger? They told me on TGP it was basically a flanger!"
:oldrant: :oldrant: :oldrant:
:lol: Perfect example for showing why I'm only active in this forum and another one (BossArea Forum).

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:23 am
by qersty
Dandolin wrote:Also can anyone tell me why I keep frying equipment?
Tips on boosters that do this? :evil:

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:53 am
by Dandolin
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Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:09 am
by qersty
I have been searching for that one passively. Super cool concept

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:08 am
by Chankgeez
Dandolin wrote:Image
Does this also sound like a Univibe and/or flanger? :whoa: :rock: :erm:

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:15 pm
by Dandolin
:erm: maybe we could all stick our flangers in a Chk Chk Boom!?

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:53 pm
by qersty
dont have time for that they should have just built it in

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:16 pm
by Dandolin
decent price on a Paradox TZF2 (which is not usually priced decently):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143746123492

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:28 pm
by qersty
but does it sound decently?

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:37 pm
by Dandolin
yeah, the Paradox TZF is really good - sometime it will be mine

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:52 pm
by Dandolin
Yet another kind of flanger?????
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174453440567
"FTB-004 Flanger Electronic Sustaining Pedal Keyboard for Yamaha Casio Piano"
:wha?:
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honestly, looks like a game changer to me :idk: :snax:

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:04 am
by coldbrightsunlight
:picard:

Re: State of the Flanger: 2020

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:21 am
by Dowi
Dandolin wrote: honestly, looks like a game changer to me :idk: :snax:
:|:
yet another time where the "badum-tsss" emoticon would have been useful.