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Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:18 pm
by vallaton
i can't wait for the podcast to come out!

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:19 pm
by AlexGlassLungs
worra wrote:
AlexGlassLungs wrote:If I put my Matchless up against my friends Marshall DSL it is noticeably way better in tone and it’s not even debatable, that doesn’t mean he should buy a Matchless, it just means that something out there sounds better.

Are you even reading what you're writing?

Ok you got me on that one...

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:19 pm
by Jwar
AlexGlassLungs wrote:
Jesus Was a Robot wrote:Can you please post a video like I said. I want to hear the toan loss from analog to digital through your magical amp.

It’s more than that. Have you ever stuck two strymon pedals next to each other in your chain? Have you not noticed the hissing sound that comes from them even when they’re off? Those pedals are so picky with what’s even next to it especially another strymon pedal. The repeats on an analog delay breakup as it trails when chopping repeated notes from the delay and playing notes over them they bloom and have a natural breakup to them this is something unachivable with a digital delay. That was my point, that’s why I asked why some people run both, I personally can’t get past the perfect robotic feel of digital sounds, I can hear the natural break up and feel of analog pedals. And I do use buffers but most digital pedals have an added buffer inside which if too many are in your chain it adds to a hissy signal and unwanted “distortion” of the the signal. At this point the square wave forms of digital are so small I can’t tell but I can tell how they react with my other pedals and my amp and most of all my signal
I have had several Strymons next to each other and I have a dead quite signal path. I'm not sure what could be causing that for you, but it's not an issue for me.

I mean, I get what you're saying, I've just never personally experienced it.

Here's my current board. Lots of digital. Obviously there's some degradation of the signal due to the massive path but it's not horrible and barely noticeable.

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Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:21 pm
by vallaton
AlexGlassLungs wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Still waiting on a definition of a digital buffer.
Most digital pedals are buffered bypass and not true bypass.
AlexGlassLungs wrote:I can crush you in gear knowledge, you don’t know me at all...

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:22 pm
by D.o.S.
AlexGlassLungs wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Still waiting on a definition of a digital buffer.
Most digital pedals are buffered bypass and not true bypass.
So you don't care about analog or digital, you care about true bypass or buffered bypass (and the millions of variation therein).

Jwar asked you what you though of digital pedals with TBP. You didn't say shit. Because "analog" and "digital" bypasses are nonsense terms that you've clung to desperately?

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:22 pm
by BetterOffShred
worra wrote:
AlexGlassLungs wrote:If I put my Matchless up against my friends Marshall DSL it is noticeably way better in tone and it’s not even debatable, that doesn’t mean he should buy a Matchless, it just means that something out there sounds better.

Are you even reading what you're writing?
Second..
What tone?
Way Better? That's the most Quantifiable statement I've ever read! :snax:

This thread is irritating. All of this stuff is completely subjective and it's only the way the OP has presented his opinions as fact that are controversial. As I said back on page 2 or 3.. Nobody here gives a rats ass about hand wired pure toanz. Most of us are noise junkies who like to make our guitars or basses or toaster fitted with 3 contact mics and a drumstick sound like dying whales floating through the void. :drool: :!!!:
There is no right answer. There is no wrong answer... It's just straight up preference.

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:23 pm
by Mudfuzz
So.. Are cassette tape or vinyl better than mp3s?

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:23 pm
by Jwar
I'll put my Mesa up against anything and I've blown it up 4 times!

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:24 pm
by D.o.S.
Better. Tone.

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:24 pm
by Jwar
Mudfuzz wrote:So.. Are cassette tape or vinyl better than mp3s?
Technically cassettes would be better than those but cd's are the gold standard as far as quality of actually keeping the true tone in tact.

See what I did there? I spoke out of my asshole. :)

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:25 pm
by weebles
True Bypass is the "semi-automatic" of the effects world.

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:25 pm
by Jwar
D.o.S. wrote:Better. Tone.
You edit fast sir. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:26 pm
by Jwar

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:27 pm
by Mudfuzz
Jesus Was a Robot wrote:
Mudfuzz wrote:So.. Are cassette tape or vinyl better than mp3s?
Technically cassettes would be better than those but)
but how many plays before before you have to buy a new fresh copy?

Re: The controversial gear thread

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:27 pm
by AlexGlassLungs
Ok so if there is no deference why did Keely make mods to the Line 6 Pedals? Why do brands like Diamond, Empress, and Chase Bliss make it so a digital path is blended into your analog path instead of just going straight into a digital circuit? You know why? Because going stight into a digital circuit and back out effects your analog signal... no one would go through the trouble of those designs if it didn’t