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that is a sick rig

tarpitcarnivore wrote:I’m so anxious to build a board (or buy, but I’m pretty intent on building one…) but I’m not even finished buying what I want yet. Trying to get a phaser, a midi controller for the Space, a volume pedal, and expression or two. I’m forgetting a couple other things.

one thing i am still trying to figure out is which patch cables to go with. george l's or lavas? anyone have any opinions? ..

very cool setup
and as far as the george Ls vs Lavas, the mammoth pancake patches are great and I have never had a problem with the livewire ones you get from muscicians friend.

http://www.mammothelectronics.com/1-4-T ... 0-5000.htm
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... atch-cable

you can mix in some DIY for specific lengths but I think for the most part they are just hype

what the fupugunt is that guitar
its like a hi flyer
with a weird butt
made from a nice hunk a would for sure

Jammed on this last night. Simple, but fun.

Guit > Pitchblack > Skyhammer Pre > Amp
FXloop out > Ibby ES2 > FXloop in

^That's awesome.
Also, this delay seems kick ass.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sGVqYbWFYQ[/youtube]

tarpitcarnivore wrote:I’m so anxious to build a board (or buy, but I’m pretty intent on building one…) but I’m not even finished buying what I want yet. Trying to get a phaser, a midi controller for the Space, a volume pedal, and expression or two. I’m forgetting a couple other things.

one thing i am still trying to figure out is which patch cables to go with. george l's or lavas? anyone have any opinions? ..

That EGC!!!!! That is EXACTLY what I would order if I got one, except it would be baritone scale. Everything else though is spot on to what I would want. Thats a sick rig dude!!!

I use lava's solderless kit on all my boards, as long as you dont swap pedals out on a constant basis they work great. If you do do alot of swapping you gotta make sure to tighten em up every time. They sound great IMO (well I should say they remove very little high end due to their low capacitance as they don't really have a "sound"). I have no experience with GL's though.

kbithecrowing wrote:^That's awesome.

Danke!

And it is a kick ass delay! It has its shortcomings (no trails and the tap tempo only works once the the pedal is engaged) but I'm able to dial in some sick dark delay tones (Think Mayhem's Grand Declaration of War / Ordo Ad Chao or any Dark Castle type delay tones) and the modulation can get crazy weird with octave up type bends at extreme settings and even without the oscillation switch if you turn the feedback up it oscillates on its own and creates a sweet dense lil bed of chaos under you guitar tone with the mix level set low.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:That EGC!!!!! That is EXACTLY what I would order if I got one, except it would be baritone scale. Everything else though is spot on to what I would want. Thats a sick rig dude!!!

I use lava's solderless kit on all my boards, as long as you dont swap pedals out on a constant basis they work great. If you do do alot of swapping you gotta make sure to tighten em up every time. They sound great IMO (well I should say they remove very little high end due to their low capacitance as they don't really have a "sound"). I have no experience with GL's though.

I've heard some say—and this is just from a fine standpoint—that Lava ELC have such low capacitance that they add highs if you're running short cables and only a few true-bypass pedals and one or two buffered pedals. It's really hard to truly create a set-up that allows your tone to be as clear as humanely possible. Some companies, such as Diezel, actually design the front-end of their amplifiers with a specific cable and capacitance in mind. It's an interesting way of doing things and allows for more consistency and a truer representation of the designers original intent.

AngryGoldfish wrote:

Ancient Astronaught wrote:That EGC!!!!! That is EXACTLY what I would order if I got one, except it would be baritone scale. Everything else though is spot on to what I would want. Thats a sick rig dude!!!

I use lava's solderless kit on all my boards, as long as you dont swap pedals out on a constant basis they work great. If you do do alot of swapping you gotta make sure to tighten em up every time. They sound great IMO (well I should say they remove very little high end due to their low capacitance as they don't really have a "sound"). I have no experience with GL's though.

I've heard some say—and this is just from a fine standpoint—that Lava ELC have such low capacitance that they add highs if you're running short cables and only a few true-bypass pedals and one or two buffered pedals. It's really hard to truly create a set-up that allows your tone to be as clear as humanely possible. Some companies, such as Diezel, actually design the front-end of their amplifiers with a specific cable and capacitance in mind. It's an interesting way of doing things and allows for more consistency and a truer representation of the designers original intent.

Cables dont add highs; they can only retain them.

Sorry, yeah, that's what I meant to say. I meant that some have said they noticed even more highs than going straight in with a 6 foot cable and no buffers or pedals. Some say the capacitance is too low.

rustywire wrote:

AngryGoldfish wrote:

Ancient Astronaught wrote:That EGC!!!!! That is EXACTLY what I would order if I got one, except it would be baritone scale. Everything else though is spot on to what I would want. Thats a sick rig dude!!!

I use lava's solderless kit on all my boards, as long as you dont swap pedals out on a constant basis they work great. If you do do alot of swapping you gotta make sure to tighten em up every time. They sound great IMO (well I should say they remove very little high end due to their low capacitance as they don't really have a "sound"). I have no experience with GL's though.

I've heard some say—and this is just from a fine standpoint—that Lava ELC have such low capacitance that they add highs if you're running short cables and only a few true-bypass pedals and one or two buffered pedals. It's really hard to truly create a set-up that allows your tone to be as clear as humanely possible. Some companies, such as Diezel, actually design the front-end of their amplifiers with a specific cable and capacitance in mind. It's an interesting way of doing things and allows for more consistency and a truer representation of the designers original intent.

Cables dont add highs; they can only retain them.

/\ this is what I was going to say Dan. Cables can't ADD anything at all, there's no circuit, electronics or anything. What they can do is prevent loss, which can be perceived as adding in high end harmonic content due to the comparison of a higher capacitance cable which loses more high end (such as your standard 5$ guitar center cable). I've felt that since I've switched to the ELC cable my tone is the clearest and truest its ever been. Not saying other cables don't do the same, but I haven't felt the need to try any others since getting them.

AngryGoldfish wrote:Sorry, yeah, that's what I meant to say. I meant that some have said they noticed even more highs than going straight in with a 6 foot cable and no buffers or pedals. Some say the capacitance is too low.

In comparison to a high capacitance cable, yes you will notice more highs. But I can't see that as any kind of downfall unless your amp doesn't have a treble knob. I'd rather have the broadest spectrum of frequencies going into the amp. It's always better to subtract from whats all ready there, then try to make up for it artificially later. Sounds to me like an excuse from someone who doesn't want to admit that its a superior product, or a response from an envious competitor.

In some cases, the rolloff from high capacitance cable is just the fix needed to keep a bright amp [think AC30 top boost] from making your ears bleed with single coils/p90 in particular.

It can really hit an amp's sweetspot just right, with a frequency curve that differs from the sweep of standard high shelf tonestacks, graphic and even parametric EQs.

rustywire wrote:In some cases, the rolloff from high capacitance cable is just the fix needed to keep a bright amp [think AC30 top boost] from making your ears bleed with single coils/p90 in particular.

It can really hit an amp's sweetspot just right, with a frequency curve that differs from the sweep of standard high shelf tonestacks, graphic and even parametric EQs.

I could definitely see that. Good call! I tend to use very dark sounding amps so it seems to balance out well for me, but if I was using a bright voiced amp I could see how it could turn shrill and ear piercing quickly.

my new pignose 60 is wicked bright so is my AC4


the guitar/cables/pedals/amb combination has so many variables that it is almost impossible to make a definitive conclusion on what works well for everyone.
I go for cheap, durable, and flexible and with 25 pedals and tons of buffers and nonsense even radio shack cables sound pretty good.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:In comparison to a high capacitance cable, yes you will notice more highs. But I can't see that as any kind of downfall unless your amp doesn't have a treble knob. I'd rather have the broadest spectrum of frequencies going into the amp. It's always better to subtract from whats all ready there, then try to make up for it artificially later. Sounds to me like an excuse from someone who doesn't want to admit that its a superior product, or a response from an envious competitor.

This is a good point. For me, because my Fryette is a really bright amp and the treble knob could be all the way off and it'll still have spank, I do want to make sure I'm maintaining the same tone. I love that about it—and I can always alter the core structure of the sound by changing the poweramp voicing switches to a smoother attack—but I certainly don't want to 'add' any more high-end than I already have. I just want to restore clarity and dynamics. My cables aren't cheap shitty things, but I would like to give ELC a shot when I have the money and invest in a different buffer.

hbombgraphics wrote:the guitar/cables/pedals/amb combination has so many variables that it is almost impossible to make a definitive conclusion on what works well for everyone.
I go for cheap, durable, and flexible and with 25 pedals and tons of buffers and nonsense even radio shack cables sound pretty good.

I tend to get caught up in calculating mathematically the capacitance levels of each cable and the inputs and outputs of each pedal, but as you say, there are just so many variables to consider.

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