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ChetMagongalo wrote:Thanks! It's too much fun. There's not really anything I wanna get rid of and I still want more stuff
I have 3 dirt/ODs but they all sound so great and different. I guess I'll have to make a bigger board

Officer Bukowski wrote:No. You really only see very few "boutique" delays that are analog though because they're more complicated to design than the typical PT2399 delay.

If you want an analog delay you're mainly going to have to go with older BOSS, Ibanez/Maxon, or EHX.

600ms would be pretty dang long for an analog delay.

ChetMagongalo wrote:It's really sweet. I'm actually selling it though cause it's gonna be replaced by the ILFDD when it comes out.
The modulation on it sounds really good and there's a lot of flexibility. Like most analog delays though I wish it had a longer max delay time. But all the features it has on it are great for the price point. sucker is tiny as fuck too

Officer Bukowski wrote:I said very few, not none. The 616 is analog but I don't think Catalinbread makes an analog delay. I could be wrong

I like to pretend that JHS doesn't exist so I have no idea what they're doing. They continue to get douchier after the Hyperion thing btw, seemingly with each "release"

theshoegazer wrote:

Trying to find a nice delay but for now this gets the job done.

AngryGoldfish wrote:I see.

Before I knew anything about circuitry, I thought the Pigtronix Echolution was analog—I thought it was the most complex analog pedal ever made. Pigtronix made me think that by their advertising, but it's completely digital apart from the signal path which stays analog. I sometimes wonder whether analog technology has anywhere to go as far as features, whether someone can develop a digitally controlled chip to manipulate the features of an analog circuit path such as what the new Deluxe Memory Man with Tap-Tempo can do, but with more advanced features.

AngryGoldfish wrote:I see.

Before I knew anything about circuitry, I thought the Pigtronix Echolution was analog—I thought it was the most complex analog pedal ever made. Pigtronix made me think that by their advertising, but it's completely digital apart from the signal path which stays analog. I sometimes wonder whether analog technology has anywhere to go as far as features, whether someone can develop a digitally controlled chip to manipulate the features of an analog circuit path such as what the new Deluxe Memory Man with Tap-Tempo can do, but with more advanced features.

vidret wrote:lol, also thought the pigtronix was analog. never understood how the fuck they managed the looper.

goroth wrote:The Subdecay dlx pedals are a good example of digital control over analogue circuits.

Officer Bukowski wrote:One thing to understand about an analog delay chip is that it doesn't "sample" the incoming signal like a digital delay does. It is literally delaying your signal by running it through hundreds of thousands of transistors contained in the chip. It's more like controlled latency than sampling.

The signal is then fed back into the chip for repeats.

So a looper is a sampler. An analog chip isn't going to do anything like that.

AngryGoldfish wrote:

goroth wrote:The Subdecay dlx pedals are a good example of digital control over analogue circuits.

I have a Quasar DLX and it's awesome. I want the Starlight DLX and the Prometheus DLX and whatever else Subdecay come up with that has a 'DLX' at the end of it.

AngryGoldfish wrote:

vidret wrote:lol, also thought the pigtronix was analog. never understood how the fuck they managed the looper.

Exactly. They definitely made some think it was an all-analog pedal. Those with the knowledge would dismiss it as a notion and accept it as digital, but I imagine many of Pigtronix customers aren't tech-savvy.

goroth wrote:The Subdecay dlx pedals are a good example of digital control over analogue circuits.

I have a Quasar DLX and it's awesome. I want the Starlight DLX and the Prometheus DLX and whatever else Subdecay come up with that has a 'DLX' at the end of it.

Officer Bukowski wrote:One thing to understand about an analog delay chip is that it doesn't "sample" the incoming signal like a digital delay does. It is literally delaying your signal by running it through hundreds of thousands of transistors contained in the chip. It's more like controlled latency than sampling.

The signal is then fed back into the chip for repeats.
You can use multiple BBDs to get more delay time rather that one mega chip. Ibanez/Maxon probly do this more than anyone. Check out some Maxon analog delays they have some long delay times with rhythmic options

I have a Maxon AD-9 Pro and it freaking rules. Probly not enough delay time for you but they have the AD-999 etc
So a looper is a sampler. An analog chip isn't going to do anything like that.

I never thought of it that way. It makes sense. So, in theory, if technology was advanced enough to not only increase the amount of micro-transistors and thus increase the latency but also develop highly complex rhythms like that in the Pigtronix Echolution and Catalinbread Echorec. I don't see how reverse delay would function without the sampling of digital technology, but in theory you should be able to create an analog SuperDelay or TimeLine, just without features such as reverse, looping. With that said, isn't the Zvex Lo-Fi Loop Junky an analog pedal?