Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:20 am
that sounds awesome. 
unownunown wrote:that sounds awesome.
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Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:59 pm
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Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:02 pm
Genres/labels ruin music for me in a big way, and I find it more beneficial to discuss what it sounds like (dreamy, agressive, urgent, epic, low, slow, etc) or compare a band to its contemporaries and peers.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:41 pm
maz91379 wrote:Man this band sounds allot like that one band and they both sound kinda dreamy but kinda popish DREAMPOP ... I'm just saying it leads to the same problem when someone describes music with a catchy name and people start using that name.
Then the adjectives EVOLVE!
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:53 pm
siamesegun wrote:Genres/labels ruin music for me in a big way, and I find it more beneficial to discuss what it sounds like (dreamy, agressive, urgent, epic, low, slow, etc) or compare a band to its contemporaries and peers.
Isn't that what genre labels do?
Thus if I say that something is Polish Blackened Death Metal, you know that:
A. They play an aggressive style of music.
B. They have a predominantly minor sound.
C. They play heavily distorted music that perhaps includes some fuzz.
D. The vocals may include growls and/or shrieks.
E. They likely use a lot of trem picking, and rhythms will probably include a lot of inverted chords.
F. They have the polish metal sound, which is noticeably different than Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish, etc.
And, if you know what a genre is then it will of course bring to mind the noteworthy bands of that genre. So when I say Polish Blackened Death Metal at the very least Behemoth or Hate will spring to mind, being two of the more well know groups of the type.
I don't get how people say that genre labels ruin music for them. The classification of music, and the evolution of terminology is I think one of the most interesting aspects of music analysis and discussion.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:02 pm
True, to some extent you need labels. Like if I told you a band was urgent bilecore avant-dreamska with tones of minimalist post-pre, you would know that:
A. It's shit.
I try to avoid relying on labels too much, but they're a usable method of categorizing music within a broad spectrum. Just try not to pigeonhole music. I know what you mean about describing music to other people, though.
A. It's shit.
I try to avoid relying on labels too much, but they're a usable method of categorizing music within a broad spectrum. Just try not to pigeonhole music. I know what you mean about describing music to other people, though.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:25 pm
as vile as descriptors are, you wind up having to use them at some point.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:38 pm
I don't even like to use descriptors for forms of art/media. The term "Music" is so poseur.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:05 am
snipelfritz wrote:I don't even like to use descriptors for forms of art/media. The term "Music" is so poseur.
Jesus shit, your post count is astonishing for how long you've been here.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:10 am
theavondon wrote:snipelfritz wrote:I don't even like to use descriptors for forms of art/media. The term "Music" is so poseur.
Jesus shit, your post count is astonishing for how long you've been here.
And do you know how many of those posts have been at all constructive? None. Not one.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:17 am
snipelfritz wrote:theavondon wrote:snipelfritz wrote:I don't even like to use descriptors for forms of art/media. The term "Music" is so poseur.
Jesus shit, your post count is astonishing for how long you've been here.
And do you know how many of those posts have been at all constructive? None. Not one.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:00 am
Labels are fine if you can summarize it in my opinion to one thing, but when you're trying to describe the entire sound and it comes out to a run-on sentence, it's just absurd. I like a lot of bands that sound like no one other than themselves and I usually describe them as their own sound(i.e. the Locust, Arab on Radar, Lightning Bolt, White Mice, Zs, Pre, Zu, Tera Melos, Yip Yip, Deerhoof) and I'm not going to divulge into it...it becomes a matter of, "what am i going to expect when i hear the group?". So I'd rather just say, "Check this out, they have their own thing going."
Bands that fit in, I completely understand, and I'm not saying they aren't as sweet, but I do happen to look for music that is unclassifiable, so perhaps, that's why I have an opinion on the matter...I just end up calling it either new or anti-music...which are both satirical.
Bands that fit in, I completely understand, and I'm not saying they aren't as sweet, but I do happen to look for music that is unclassifiable, so perhaps, that's why I have an opinion on the matter...I just end up calling it either new or anti-music...which are both satirical.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:47 am
Bellyheart wrote: becomes a matter of, "what am i going to expect when i hear the group?". So I'd rather just say, "Check this out, they have their own thing going."
Except that, 90% of the time, that will not get me to give them a chance. I usually want some kind of idea what to expect before I devote my time to a music recommendation.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:37 pm
I nyan'ed for a half hour earlier today.
Re: The Confessions Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:44 pm
foomanfat wrote:I nyan'ed for a half hour earlier today.
is that what the kids calling it these days