I feel you. I want to throw my landlord and my employer into an active volcano
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:54 pm
by coupleonapkins
Dandolin wrote:yeah, it's not you pedal prices...it's me
but this - this has a color screen, ok?!?
ok
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:35 pm
by MrNovember
Wow, just saw the price of the RE202. Yeah, that's a bit much for me. I'm still interested in the DL4 MK2 and maybe the RE2, though
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:05 pm
by backwardsvoyager
friendship wrote:But also, the RE-202 expands on the RE-20's features by giving you control over repeat saturation & wow/flutter, tape age, presets, defeat of the preamp, an extra footswitch, an extra playhead, and a few extra reverb algos. The only thing missing is continuous control over the input preamp.
The input preamp thing is throwing me off a bit. The whole point of a Space Echo is that it's always on as far as I'm concerned, but the website doesn't seem to mention whether the preamp can be set to stay on when the delay is off, and you only get ON/OFF preamp control, no input gain knob for guitar/line input
Looks snazzy as heck, but unless it makes everything sound better even with the echo turned off I'm not seeing a huge appeal.
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:14 pm
by cosmicevan
I was really pumped for the RE-2, now seeing this RE-20...wow, just wow...but then I see the pricetag and whilst all valid points, it's just too much too soon. These aren't limited (I hope)...if so, I'll have to jump on at least one, but otherwise, I might try to put it on my black friday list or more realistically my memorial day sale list, if they don't start popping up used right away.
I've been SO spendy this year already and tomorrow has 3 drops I'm interested in (Broughton compressor, Lurch Audio modulation craziness, Champion Leccy handheld synth)...sigh...
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:42 pm
by Dandolin
cosmicevan wrote:Lurch Audio modulation craziness
ooh! do tell....
[don't see it on their website? off to insta]
i mean. it's not the silo, right?
is it the ergot? [that name def sounds like it would fit "modulation craziness"]
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:29 am
by manymanyhaha
I'm interested too since that Silo looks amazing (though too large for a mono pedal for my board). But modulation is the new 'it' thing if my opinion matters and lots of knobs and switches gets me
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:03 am
by friendship
backwardsvoyager wrote:
friendship wrote:But also, the RE-202 expands on the RE-20's features by giving you control over repeat saturation & wow/flutter, tape age, presets, defeat of the preamp, an extra footswitch, an extra playhead, and a few extra reverb algos. The only thing missing is continuous control over the input preamp.
The input preamp thing is throwing me off a bit. The whole point of a Space Echo is that it's always on as far as I'm concerned, but the website doesn't seem to mention whether the preamp can be set to stay on when the delay is off, and you only get ON/OFF preamp control, no input gain knob for guitar/line input
Looks snazzy as heck, but unless it makes everything sound better even with the echo turned off I'm not seeing a huge appeal.
Good news! I just peeped the manual and there's a bootup setting for this (Page 13: https://static.roland.com/assets/media/ ... ng01_W.pdf). When you turn the setting on, the Saturation knob controls gain for both the dry and echo outputs, and stays on when the pedal is bypassed. When it's off ("Coward Mode"), there's no preamp on the dry output and Saturation only effects the echo output.
Another fun thing I learned in the manual is that the expression pedal output can be set to control any knob parameter, except for the Mode Selector, whereas the RE-20 could only do repeat rate and intensity (i.e. delay time and feedback). A lot of creative possibilities there! Also, MIDI!
I'll probably try to pick one up used when hype dies down. Then I can keep my RE-20 on my guitar board and put the RE-202 on permanent assignment on a stereo bus so that I can space echo while I space echo.
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:04 pm
by frigid midget
Not ashamed to say both those new space echos gave me bonerz. The looks of the new DL4 made 'em melt real fast though.
Also not ashamed to admit I can't afford any of those peddles atm
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:25 pm
by MrNovember
I honestly don't hate the looks of the new DL4. It looks way better than the old DL4
friendship wrote:Good news! I just peeped the manual and there's a bootup setting for this (Page 13: https://static.roland.com/assets/media/ ... ng01_W.pdf). When you turn the setting on, the Saturation knob controls gain for both the dry and echo outputs, and stays on when the pedal is bypassed. When it's off ("Coward Mode"), there's no preamp on the dry output and Saturation only effects the echo output.
Another fun thing I learned in the manual is that the expression pedal output can be set to control any knob parameter, except for the Mode Selector, whereas the RE-20 could only do repeat rate and intensity (i.e. delay time and feedback). A lot of creative possibilities there! Also, MIDI!
I'll probably try to pick one up used when hype dies down. Then I can keep my RE-20 on my guitar board and put the RE-202 on permanent assignment on a stereo bus so that I can space echo while I space echo.
I definitely needed to RTFM Thanks for that.
No qualms about the functionality, then.
After watching this I get the sense that as someone who used an OG 201 for a while I'd nitpick the overall sound of it a bit too much to justify buying (might just be the settings but it seems to sound a bit thicker and more muffled than the real thing), but I think anyone less jaded would have a great time with it.
Re: New gear announcements for 2022
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:11 am
by qersty
Dandolin wrote:yeah, it's not you pedal prices...it's me