IN LIMBO

[Bellyheart]

http://youtu.be/EArUHmW-Gx4
http://youtu.be/M3Moc1ZTUwc
http://youtu.be/UwsORpbx3F8

Forgot how to embed with my iPad. I also forgot the tap knob has a swell. I'm gonna mess with that tomorrow. Love this thing. Gonna see how rainbows and arps fare. Maybe some ring mod. No low since I'm playing out of a 6" kustom combo.

It definitely does sexy. Especially clean. Maybe a bit louder and the mod will come through with the 2nd voice.

Sorry the shit is so shaky.

[mysteriousj]

Thanks for those demos, I'm loving the one with that 2nd voice.

I'm back home now so going to get back into building next week. I should have a few of these built up within a couple of weeks.

Also going to get back into finishing some new designs.. Should be pretty fun!

[Tristan]

I received the In Limbo today.
Just wondering, how do you set the arp to only go one or two octaves up?
Right now it always also seems to do bassnotes or something, I don't know, maybe it's also supposed to always do that but I'm not sure.
It's a pretty creative unit, it really forces you to adjust what you play to make something out of it I think, also the delay doesn't seem to melt with the original signal much even if you set the feedback (regen) quite high which makes playing with it a pretty weird experience, never quite had that so strong with any other delay before, I'm curious whether I'm also going to be able to get conventional sounding / feeling delay sounds out of it.

[mysteriousj]

Yesss it's arrived!

It's not really possible to get just up or just down. It's a technical limitation to doing things analog. If you set the mod speed fully to the right you can pick out when it's going to shift up/down and just play that part but that's the only way. The bbd is just a small audio sample and what it's doing for example is doubling the playback rate then switching back to normal speed. So when it doubles the speed you go up an octave, when it goes back to normal you go down an octave. There will also be a delayed non pitch shifted component as well depending on the setting. The difference between the two octave settings is one doubles the frequency the other halves it, but you still get an octave up/down component. You can't keep doubling the sample rate because you'll pretty soon max out the chips specs haha.

Theoretically it's possible to do by having two or more delay lines running and combining outputs so you get a pure octave up/down but it's not really practical to make. If someone pays me a lot of money sure I could do it. I'd rather use a dsp.

With it not melting together with the dry do you mean... Like it overpowers it or something else? The mix has quite a bit of gain to it. At 12 o'clock it's boosted so will slightly overpower your dry did you try turning it down?

[coldbrightsunlight]

Glad it got there safe!

[Tristan]

Yesss it's arrived!

It's not really possible to get just up or just down. It's a technical limitation to doing things analog. If you set the mod speed fully to the right you can pick out when it's going to shift up/down and just play that part but that's the only way. The bbd is just a small audio sample and what it's doing for example is doubling the playback rate then switching back to normal speed. So when it doubles the speed you go up an octave, when it goes back to normal you go down an octave. There will also be a delayed non pitch shifted component as well depending on the setting. The difference between the two octave settings is one doubles the frequency the other halves it, but you still get an octave up/down component. You can't keep doubling the sample rate because you'll pretty soon max out the chips specs haha.

Theoretically it's possible to do by having two or more delay lines running and combining outputs so you get a pure octave up/down but it's not really practical to make. If someone pays me a lot of money sure I could do it. I'd rather use a dsp.

With it not melting together with the dry do you mean... Like it overpowers it or something else? The mix has quite a bit of gain to it. At 12 o'clock it's boosted so will slightly overpower your dry did you try turning it down?

Ah, thanks, I see, the arpeggiation function is totally cool the way it is though, really awesome and inspiring!
You were right about the mix, I had it set at 1/3 but putting it at about 1/4 I could get more cloudy / ambient delay sounds out of the In Limbo (what I usually use delay for).
I think personally I'd never get the mix control past 1/2 because then the delay would simply become too loud for me (above unity gain), a usable upgrade in my opinion would be to include both wet and dry controls or to make the mix control more gradual.

What I tried to describe is also in the character of the delay I think.
I've never heard such a perfect beautiful sounding delay signal than what is coming out of the In Limbo, it sounds so natural but also so present and big that it to my ear gives a completely different effect than most other delays I tried (be it analog or digital).
I don't know how exactly to describe it but it's a very 3D like sound, as if the delay is a perfect image of your guitar mirrored in a different way coming from a slightly different angle, it basically sounds like a mix of two similar yet slightly different guitars in cascade where you can clearly discern the one from the other also rhythmically.
In short, this thing is awesome and unique, I'm definitely going to put it on my "must have" list if in the future you decide to make a batch with an external tap input.

[Uncle Grandfather]

I'm definitely going to put it on my "must have" list if in the future you decide to make a batch with an external tap input.

nice description. have you ever played a tape delay, sounds like what you are describing. i'm next up on the us leg for getting the In Limbo and your write up's getting me seriously excited

[Tristan]

Glad to get the mouthwater going!
You might be right actually, Echoplex style maybe, yeah, I think the In Limbo could come close to that sorta thing on certain settings.
Call me weird but the only tape style echo I really like is the Space Echo series though, which is a different thing altogether, personally I prefer a great analog delay (like the In Limbo is) or PT2399 delay over an Echoplex every day.

[Uncle Grandfather]

Echoplex style maybe, yeah,

that's what you reminded me of.

i love my echoplex ep-2, and my RE-201 space echo WAY more than any analogue delay pedal though. also growing quite fond of my new fulltone TTE which is based on the ep-2 with some nice modern amenities.

[SecretMachine]

oh fuck balls. i've just found this and this sounds AMAZING. really love Goroth's demo!

[Wes Mantooth]

I can't wait to have this thing back

[mysteriousj]

Got my first one finished. The rest are almost all finished just missing a couple parts.

Pricing is $270 couriered pretty much anywhere in the world.

For people who don't have power supplies I'm going to compile a list of compatible supplies. If anyone's seen anything else they think might work let me know

US
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/dunlop-ecb-004-barrel-18v-adapter#productDetail
http://proguitarshop.com/dunlop-ecb004-18vdc-ac-adapter.html

UK
https://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/dunlop-18-volt-power-supply-ecb004uk.html#info
http://www.hotroxuk.com/jim-dunlop-18v-power-supply-ecb004.html

Euro
Search for part number ECB-004E, there's a few music stores around europe who sell these.

AU/NZ
I can provide one of these!

I'll update this after I do a bit more digging. There's probably cheaper alternatives out there I haven't found yet..

[Bellyheart]

Who gets this sex dragon?

[SecretMachine]

How much is shipping to the UK from NZ?

[mysteriousj]

270 is including shipping to UK/Euro/US

Cheers,