The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[chillerthanmost]

Soooooo.... Bass players...... Regular fridge (8x10) or 1540HE (4x10 + 2x15) for single cab badassery in B or A standard. Will be powered by the NMV Wizard, which one should I get and why?!?!

I say 810. Even power distribution between the speakers (impedance) will make for a more consistant sound all around. If you're playing one amp, I say feed it to the same speakers. If you want to cross speaker sizes then you'll have to look into different impedance to get equal power distribution. Bass cabs are lame. I'm currently (still) looking for the right cab set up as well, for my SVT.

[Ancient Astronaught]

I loved my Ampeg 8x10 when I played bass in a crust band. We tuned to B and I slammed it with a Russian Muff, Pharaoh, and Rat and it always held up and put out plenty of low end. That said, I'm sure a 2x15 and 4x10 cab would rule pretty hard too.

This is what I wanted to hear. There's a guy selling two cheap fridges near me.... and he's interested in trades.... time to see what i can make happen.

I say 810. Even power distribution between the speakers (impedance) will make for a more consistant sound all around. If you're playing one amp, I say feed it to the same speakers. If you want to cross speaker sizes then you'll have to look into different impedance to get equal power distribution. Bass cabs are lame. I'm currently (still) looking for the right cab set up as well, for my SVT.

Awesome thanks for the input!!! I know bass cabs get down right scientific, but I've also found blissfull tones in equipment that talkbass would flame war me for using so

Do you think 120 2xKT88 watts will be enough to push two fridges? (They'll be used together using a series / parallel box to achieve 8ohms)

[Kacey Y]

Soooooo.... Bass players...... Regular fridge (8x10) or 1540HE (4x10 + 2x15) for single cab badassery in B or A standard. Will be powered by the NMV Wizard, which one should I get and why?!?!


























OR just get 2 fridges n call it a day.

It's hard to go wrong with an Ampeg 810e man. They're loud, they pump out plenty of (perceived) low end and they're in large supply on the used market. I have 2 Duallies, which are my favorite cabs of all time now, and I still kept and regularly use my 810e. Even though they don't put out as much measurable objective low end frequency as some other cabs, they have a certain EQ curve to them that punches you in the gut and sounds big and low. Most actual low end frequencies are not very audible, even at high volume. The low mid frequencies the Ampeg 810e spit out are REALLY audible and sound low and punchy. I regularly play mine in B.

I could say a lot about perception and bias relating to comparing different speakers, with different cabs, that have different specs. All that really matter is if you like the way it sounds and it's as loud as you want it to be. I wouldn't assume that just because something has a bigger speaker that it will sound lower or react better at low tuning, there's a lot of other factors involved. It's better to just try something out and see if it performs the way you want, if possible.

[Ancient Astronaught]

It's hard to go wrong with an Ampeg 810e man. They're loud, they pump out plenty of (perceived) low end and they're in large supply on the used market. I have 2 Duallies, which are my favorite cabs of all time now, and I still kept and regularly use my 810e. Even though they don't put out as much measurable objective low end frequency as some other cabs, they have a certain EQ curve to them that punches you in the gut and sounds big and low. Most actual low end frequencies are not very audible, even at high volume. The low mid frequencies the Ampeg 810e spit out are REALLY audible and sound low and punchy. I regularly play mine in B.

I could say a lot about perception and bias relating to comparing different speakers, with different cabs, that have different specs. All that really matter is if you like the way it sounds and it's as loud as you want it to be. I wouldn't assume that just because something has a bigger speaker that it will sound lower or react better at low tuning, there's a lot of other factors involved. It's better to just try something out and see if it performs the way you want, if possible.

Thanks man!!! That actually makes alot of sense, and the reality is most clubs around here take a DI signal with a mic so any really low end that gets lost through the fridge will come through the PA. I think its decided.....

Dual Fridge terror!!!!!!!!

[mc_muench]

Soooooo.... Bass players...... Regular fridge (8x10) or 1540HE (4x10 + 2x15) for single cab badassery in B or A standard. Will be powered by the NMV Wizard, which one should I get and why?!?!

I'm pretty sure the 1540HE only has a single 15", in which case get an 810, in which case try to find a Peavey 810TVX. They go way lower and are cheaper than the standard ampeg fridge. Plus PVY DETH KVLT!!!


also if your playing g bass again stop by the TB DOOM room, we miss you over there.

[Kacey Y]

It's hard to go wrong with an Ampeg 810e man. They're loud, they pump out plenty of (perceived) low end and they're in large supply on the used market. I have 2 Duallies, which are my favorite cabs of all time now, and I still kept and regularly use my 810e. Even though they don't put out as much measurable objective low end frequency as some other cabs, they have a certain EQ curve to them that punches you in the gut and sounds big and low. Most actual low end frequencies are not very audible, even at high volume. The low mid frequencies the Ampeg 810e spit out are REALLY audible and sound low and punchy. I regularly play mine in B.

I could say a lot about perception and bias relating to comparing different speakers, with different cabs, that have different specs. All that really matter is if you like the way it sounds and it's as loud as you want it to be. I wouldn't assume that just because something has a bigger speaker that it will sound lower or react better at low tuning, there's a lot of other factors involved. It's better to just try something out and see if it performs the way you want, if possible.

Thanks man!!! That actually makes alot of sense, and the reality is most clubs around here take a DI signal with a mic so any really low end that gets lost through the fridge will come through the PA. I think its decided.....

Dual Fridge terror!!!!!!!!

I still want another 810e, so I can eventually run my 300w Dunwich tube head into one full stack and my Dunwich preamp pedal into my stereo power amp into another full stack. Then the prophecy will be fulfilled and darkness will reign.

[Ancient Astronaught]

I'm pretty sure the 1540HE only has a single 15", in which case get an 810, in which case try to find a Peavey 810TVX. They go way lower and are cheaper than the standard ampeg fridge. Plus PVY DETH KVLT!!!


also if your playing g bass again stop by the TB DOOM room, we miss you over there.

That's correct, I'm just gonna go with 8x10's. I was looking for peavey 8x10's but there is no old peavey around here thats worth a damn its sooo weird.

I will probably pop my head in there again now that I've figured out how to get around my company firewall hahaha it was blocked for months to me.

I still want another 810e, so I can eventually run my 300w Dunwich tube head into one full stack and my Dunwich preamp pedal into my stereo power amp into another full stack. Then the prophecy will be fulfilled and darkness will reign.

Guuuhhhhh that would be amazing!!!!! I want a 300w Dunwich.... Both of mine combined are 300w though

[CaptainBoxman]

Just ordered a Laney 50 watt AOR. Looking forward to that shit.

Also, totally got kicked out of the FCOAW for asking a question about cabs

[chillerthanmost]

I say 810. Even power distribution between the speakers (impedance) will make for a more consistant sound all around. If you're playing one amp, I say feed it to the same speakers. If you want to cross speaker sizes then you'll have to look into different impedance to get equal power distribution. Bass cabs are lame. I'm currently (still) looking for the right cab set up as well, for my SVT.

Awesome thanks for the input!!! I know bass cabs get down right scientific, but I've also found blissfull tones in equipment that talkbass would flame war me for using so

Do you think 120 2xKT88 watts will be enough to push two fridges? (They'll be used together using a series / parallel box to achieve 8ohms)

My Sorado was 80w w/ 2xKT88 and it did not power my 810 with enough volume. Hell, my YBA-3 has 4x6550 and it didn't power an 810 with enough volume. But I'm talking live, loud band volume. But then alone powering two 810's would be a struggle. Weirdly enough, though, my Sound City 100 was louder through my 810 on bass even though the Traynor is louder than it on guitar (given all the same signal). So idk. I think a lot depends on the amp circuit.

Like Corey said, the best thing to do is trial and error. It sucks but it's better to try your rig at the volume and tone you want, and not go by too many others. Both bands I'm in play ridiculously loud, where I HAD to go out and pick up an SVT to keep up on bass, while having tons of 100w-150w amps. And I don't think Corey would be able to keep up with me on guitar if he didn't have his loud, high wattage bass amps too.

But, for instance, my buddy borrowed my YBA-3 to use for a show a few weekends ago, plugged it into his Mesa 2x15 and he said he didn't even turn it up past 2 on the volume and it filled the room and played with plenty of volume. And they are your standard run of the mill hardcore band/volume. But I had to play it at volume 7 and still add a cranked Sunn Beta next to it to keep up in my band =|

[Kacey Y]

I'm pretty sure the 1540HE only has a single 15", in which case get an 810, in which case try to find a Peavey 810TVX. They go way lower and are cheaper than the standard ampeg fridge. Plus PVY DETH KVLT!!!


also if your playing g bass again stop by the TB DOOM room, we miss you over there.

That's correct, I'm just gonna go with 8x10's. I was looking for peavey 8x10's but there is no old peavey around here thats worth a damn its sooo weird.

I will probably pop my head in there again now that I've figured out how to get around my company firewall hahaha it was blocked for months to me.

I still want another 810e, so I can eventually run my 300w Dunwich tube head into one full stack and my Dunwich preamp pedal into my stereo power amp into another full stack. Then the prophecy will be fulfilled and darkness will reign.

Guuuhhhhh that would be amazing!!!!! I want a 300w Dunwich.... Both of mine combined are 300w though

Hopefully it's done pretty soon. I've been easing the withdrawal symptoms with pedals lol.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Just ordered a Laney 50 watt AOR. Looking forward to that shit.

Also, totally got kicked out of the FCOAW for asking a question about cabs

Score!

Yeah i don't post there, just gawk for fearing the same. They should just change the name to The Amp Page.

My Sorado was 80w w/ 2xKT88 and it did not power my 810 with enough volume. Hell, my YBA-3 has 4x6550 and it didn't power an 810 with enough volume. But I'm talking live, loud band volume. But then alone powering two 810's would be a struggle. Weirdly enough, though, my Sound City 100 was louder through my 810 on bass even though the Traynor is louder than it on guitar (given all the same signal). So idk. I think a lot depends on the amp circuit.

Like Corey said, the best thing to do is trial and error. It sucks but it's better to try your rig at the volume and tone you want, and not go by too many others. Both bands I'm in play ridiculously loud, where I HAD to go out and pick up an SVT to keep up on bass, while having tons of 100w-150w amps. And I don't think Corey would be able to keep up with me on guitar if he didn't have his loud, high wattage bass amps too.

But, for instance, my buddy borrowed my YBA-3 to use for a show a few weekends ago, plugged it into his Mesa 2x15 and he said he didn't even turn it up past 2 on the volume and it filled the room and played with plenty of volume. And they are your standard run of the mill hardcore band/volume. But I had to play it at volume 7 and still add a cranked Sunn Beta next to it to keep up in my band =|

The wizard is most definitely the loudest low end heavy 100w amp I've ever played through, it was ridiculously loud through my delta pro lfc loaded 2x15. So I'm sure one 8x10 won't be a problem but two might be. I think your right I will have to just try it out before buying to see how it will be, I doubt I will need it to be insanely loud off the bat and if I do I am gonna go out and get one of the newer Sunn 1200s's like Ron uses, its basically built to push fridges.

It sounds like you guys are pretty loud live...... COME OUT TO THE bEAST COAST!!!!!

[Kacey Y]

I think you would be getting to the point of diminishing returns with 2 8x10 cabs, unless you had a really high powered amp.

Different people have very different ideas of what LOUD is too lol. I have played hard rock/metal shows with my YBA-1 into my fridge and blown every other bass player that night off the stage by a large margin, volume wise. When chillerthanmost and I practice in Warp Rig though, that setup wouldn't even come close to cutting it for volume. I would probably double what I use for practice in a live situation with that band too, because there's not quite enough room for me to keep two cabs there at the moment, like I recorded with.

[Ancient Astronaught]

But... but.... MO CABS MO BETTAH?!?!?!?!?!?! hahaha nah I can definitely see what your saying. I will probably just go for one right now but i will still try out both together if i can.

[pelliott]

What's FCOAW

[Ancient Astronaught]

The person with the two 8x10's is FoF (Jeff) on TB.

What's FCOAW

First Church of Amplifier Worship on FaceBook.