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Deltaphoenix wrote:It seems to me that the most utility would come from one switch for on/off and one for Fuzz on/off. I mean, bass players that are using a pedal for "their tone" tend to want the pedal on the whole time and would want an on/off for the fuzz. Bass players that are using the pedal for additional tones/textures would like the pedal on/off switch because a certain song needs different EQ and then Fuzzins.
Maybe I am just totally biased because i HATE scooped Mids. They sound good when playing by yourself but immediately gets lost in a band context 95% of the time. IMO, if this is a pedal for bass playing, in a band situation, the MiD footswitch should be toggled so that it can be a mid boost or mid scooped. I hate scooped miss so much that making this a core feature totally turns me off to buying the pedal.

I'm not sure why the hate for scooping mids? Maybe the pedals you've tried with that option didn't have enough balls? This will allow you to scoop it as much as you want vs a preset scoop. Meaning you don't have to completely scoop them. Just take a little off the top so to speak.

I honestly do not see this pedal having any problem getting through the mix and it will be tested in the context obviously before release. Also these features could change. This is all preliminary stuff. We're still two months off of prototype at least.


So you would rather have a on/off for the fuzz in order to use it as a preamp? Is that what you're saying?


What if we used the second switch for one of the boost sections?

Note that the preamp in this is modeled after an MTD preamp frequencies. SO it will be extremely hard to not cut through a mix. This pedal is also intended for band situations specifically.

So any and all comments, suggestions are welcome. I want this to be a swiss army knife and very useful. Not just balls to the wall. We could do a mid boost as well.

OK! SO here's the deal! I totally forgot Roy and I talked about this feature! hahaha. I'm so dumb sometimes. So the pot attached the footswitch is going to act as a mid scoop and a mid boost. It's a dual use. That's why we did it. I totally forgot our conversation and had to recap.

SO turn the knob clock wise it boosts your mids (past noon), counter clockwise it scoops them. So with the four band plus the boost. Man you're getting through.

Awesome! Having the option of either is great.

I feel something moving in my pants!

Deltaphoenix wrote:I feel something moving in my pants!

Me too, my wallet.

Can't wait to give you my money

Like jwar said, we chose frequency points for the EQ that are intended to work in a full band mix (both bass and guitar)
I will do extensive testing in a loud, live setting. Trust us dudes, we're not going to do this half-assed.

This is being designed to fill a void that we felt was missing... a kickass fuzz with FULL extensive EQ control. This allows you to adjust no matter what amp you plug into. (Ideally a clean, high powered tube amp)

Having a clean blend/preamp/boost all contributes to this being boner-inducing. No more viagra

A Bee Baa is an octave fuzz, right?
I still don't understand why you'd put a full eq on an octave fuzz, on a regular fuzz yes, but an octave fuzz, I don't know.
Well anyway, I guess I'm not part of the group you're focusing on, I'm just curious.

you Excane, still don't like scooped mids.

The Bee Baa wasn't (isn't) an octave fuzz, it has a treble boost.

Oh, right, thanks, I remembered it sounding kinda buzzy and thin so that's probably why I put it in the octave fuzz corner.
Listening to some demo's again, I know why it wasn't for me, it has the woollyness and smooth texture of a thick heavy higain fuzz (which it doesn't seem to be) coupled with the thin buzzy sound of an old school garage fuzz but not much of the raunchyness or raspyness, which is exactly not my combo.
Anyway, excuse me for my bullshit duders, carry on!

jwar wrote:OK! SO here's the deal! I totally forgot Roy and I talked about this feature! hahaha. I'm so dumb sometimes. So the pot attached the footswitch is going to act as a mid scoop and a mid boost. It's a dual use. That's why we did it. I totally forgot our conversation and had to recap.

SO turn the knob clock wise it boosts your mids (past noon), counter clockwise it scoops them. So with the four band plus the boost. Man you're getting through.

Well all RIGHTY then. I'm back on the train! Chooo chooo!

Deltaphoenix wrote: you Excane, still don't like scooped mids.

The Bee Baa wasn't (isn't) an octave fuzz, it has a treble boost.

Thanks for chiming in dude. I had to go back and research as I was almost positive the Bee Baa wasn't octave based, but can get some of it's qualities at different settings. I know the Brassmaster is the same way, which was one of our options, but Excane and I decided Bee Baa because of how gnarly it sounds. Gnar, gnar.

I know you hate the scoops, but what about the boost? You might love it.

Yeah the bee baa isn't octave up, just midrangey or scooped.
I like scooped, but with the option to boost with the twist of a knob, it'd be hard not to dime.
It would be pretty cool if it also had a treble boost, but not a shitty one like the bee baa has.

Update OP with a mock up for the design layout for knobs and jacks. PLUS we will be doing a special graphic for the first 10-20. Every pedal after that will have a standard graphic.

When is this going to drop jwar? Would love to get on it (now that mids are boostable) but right now my bank account says "fuck you" whenever I look at it.