Sophomore album better than first album?

[waltdogg]

what about junior albums? coz infrastructure kills the first two ghostlimb lps.

[lordgalvar]

GISM....M.A.N. > Detestation (in a weird way)
Discordance Axis....Jouhou > Ulterior

Regarding DA - I need to listen to Jouhou again. I love Ulterior! I like 'Ulterior' better than 'The Inalienable Dreamless'

Regarding GISM - Is stuff like this up your alley? TOTALLY UP MINE!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3QhsF2hyk[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3QhsF2hyk

Haha, yea, I have that album. I even like the Oi inspired stuff a bit.

Always been into the Japanese punk/hardcore stuff. My friend documented it a bit and is touring kinda right now with his photo gallery. Japanese crust and the early hardcore over there is far superior to the UK82, American Crust, UK Crust and stuff. I dig a lot of the grind and later stuff (really dug mind of asian, real Reggae, NK6, Dudman, etc). Forward was one of the last shows I went to that I couldn't miss.

[Dapper Bandit]

Gridlink was the first of those bands for me. Longhena blew my dick square off from the first chord.

Longhena was the album that cemented Gridlink as the successor of DA.

For me Discordance Axis is/was the most important grind band. They blasted hard but had melody and intelligence and actual lyrics that weren't awful without ever compromising their vision. The first two Gridlink albums were (in my mind, at the time) pretty OK but the opening chords Constant Autumn immediately caught me and I realised they had not come to mess around.

So I would also have to go with Jouhou > Ulterior and would also raise you

Sailing the Seas of Cheese > Frizzle Fry
Disco Volante > Mr. Bungle
Buck Fever > It's Understood
Millions Now Living Will Never Die > Tortoise
Hammock Style > Fore!

[lordgalvar]

Sailing the Seas of Cheese > Frizzle Fry
Disco Volante > Mr. Bungle
Buck Fever > It's Understood

Agree with all three.

Saw Estradasphere several times and kicked it with the old Sax player at Fai do do before the show for quite a while. I didn't really dig quadropus and later stuff/shows as much. Buck Fever was tops.

And, dapper bandit

I totally missed the second GRINDLINK album...will have to check it out. Longhena was far superior to the first one.

[ProCarsteNation]

Blind Melon

Dirt>Facelift

yeah, well, hm!
I'll agree that in both cases you had the band coming into their own darker, weirder sound
than the earlier, lighter more straightforward albums.
An awesome sound they continued & matured on the following albums.
Well not in BMs case obviously & unfortunately, but man did they have that darkness & weirdness already,
when they played the early stuff live... freaking doorsy and whatnot, could take you till the second chorus to recognize the fucking song

Still: In both cases the first album has much more yumyum to offer than the popular hit,
and for AIC that hit was MAN IN THE BOX, so come on...

But OK OK, if I had to choose only one album of each to listen to in the future
I'd probably choose Soup or even Nico
and Di... Facelift?

God, why you making me judge & choose like that you elitist ratfaces?!?
elitist ratfaces that I love btw

but I can fairly certainly say that
Undertow>Opiate and Aenima>Undertow and possibly Lateralus>all the rest,
but then again lately if I've been listening to Tool at all I've been listening to 10k days the most,
and I'll be damned if I'm not putting on Undertow RIGHT NOOOW

[Dapper Bandit]

Sailing the Seas of Cheese > Frizzle Fry
Disco Volante > Mr. Bungle
Buck Fever > It's Understood

Agree with all three.

Saw Estradasphere several times and kicked it with the old Sax player at Fai do do before the show for quite a while. I didn't really dig quadropus and later stuff/shows as much. Buck Fever was tops.

And, dapper bandit

I totally missed the second GRINDLINK album...will have to check it out. Longhena was far superior to the first one.

You're the first person in, like maybe 10 years of using this forum handle to recognise the reference. That's got to be worth some internet points, right?

The second Gridlink album is good. I mean, they're all top shelf grind albums IMO but Longhena is the best by far. It pretty much killed all my ambitions to make anything in that vein, that album is grindcore's final form.

[Strange Tales]

Also I want to do one junior album like Waltdogg (who is in fact very correct about Ghostlimb). But Wormrot's newest album is probably my favorite grind album of all time.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpscD2vagsA[/youtube]

[lordgalvar]

You're the first person in, like maybe 10 years of using this forum handle to recognise the reference. That's got to be worth some internet points, right?

I listened the hell out of some buck fever when I was commuting near 200 miles a day haha.

I still like Assuck Anticapital a ton as far as grind. That one doesn't really get old to me.

[fcknoise]

True Widows second album, the one with the super long name and has a white cover, is their best album

[tremolo3]

True Widows second album, the one with the super long name and has a white cover, is their best album

You couldn't be anymore wrong.

But yeah, that was the one that made them go popular for some reason.

[Lurker13]

Forgot to mention: Diary of a Madman > Blizzard of Ozz

And now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[fcknoise]

True Widows second album, the one with the super long name and has a white cover, is their best album

You couldn't be anymore wrong.

But yeah, that was the one that made them go popular for some reason.

What?? You are crazy

I like the other albums but as high as the highest is the best as an album considering consistency and shit

[$harkToootth]

[Haha, yea, I have that album. I even like the Oi inspired stuff a bit.

Always been into the Japanese punk/hardcore stuff. My friend documented it a bit and is touring kinda right now with his photo gallery. Japanese crust and the early hardcore over there is far superior to the UK82, American Crust, UK Crust and stuff. I dig a lot of the grind and later stuff (really dug mind of asian, real Reggae, NK6, Dudman, etc). Forward was one of the last shows I went to that I couldn't miss.

I have another comp and I really like the tracks from a band called COMES on there. Up your alley?

[lordgalvar]

Have both comes records. I think one is a bootleg/fan club and one is a legit copy (they later metal one). Comes were great! Most of the copies of the first album in the states is a bootleg with gism Detestation on the flip side, iirc.

Nurse and Typhus are also good female fronted Japanese punk bands from that era. Typhus turned into Gauze...and I think the only think they released is a kinda "bootleg" demo tape. Some are legit from the band that were dropped off years later (like 10-15) at random record shops. Nurse had some collections reprinted I think.

G-Zet's back catalog is kinda like that (well, a lot of Japanese bands like tranquilizer and stuff)

You're talking about Outsider comp right?

[$harkToootth]

Oh jez you're good....'Outsider'...BINGO. Taking the names you just mentioned and exploring (Thank you!)